Corinda Hcap redux

[macleod]

well, i discovered i can't get my current handicap tranferred over to Corinda and just go ahead.

I have to play 5 comp cards there as their ACR, being different, necessitates a separate handicap being calculated from scratch. so at 5 x $20 for green/comp just to get the cap, it's $170 plus i have to play at least 10 comps there during the year.

that wasn't an issue, but the fine print of setup costs makes Emmy still the clear winner.....

unless of course the same things applies there, ie. 5 comps cards with a member from emmy..

any Emmy members remember what had to be done?

[Fishman Dan]

Are they serious? If they are an AGU club, surely they need to honour AGU handicaps?

A new rule was applied a couple of years ago - if you have a handicap at Course A and play regular (open?) comps at Course B - they can give you their own handicap. For example - if i play at Gordon every week, they can give me a Gordon-only handicap based on my performance there. As it is, the Pro at Gordon is off -2 when he plays there.

Stick to the Emmy Lakes / Casino concept ;)

[macleod]

i guess since it's only a par 66 or something they want it to be correct calculated. fair enough, but i already have a cap in the system so i don't want multiples (didn't even know it was possible)

the expectation is you'd play there predominantly.

it's odd since they should have just gone with the GAA concept agu social membership hcap instead. at least then the cards are on the table about it's transportability and use in comps away from home.

the social hcap, technically, requires you to inform any club you are playing the comp at about it before competiting...and apparently from what i'd read clubs reserve the right to reject you using it in comp.

[Onewood]

Mac

Pay your 99 clams to Emmy.....get the current handicap transferred to allow Emmy to look after it.....and you just need five cards from anywhere during the year to keep it current. No games at Emmy are required.

This one sounds better Mac, 8) who mentioned that cheap deal at corinda anyway, before finding out all the details :evil: some people I don't know :oops: :D

[macleod]

Mac

Pay your 99 clams to Emmy.....get the current handicap transferred to allow Emmy to look after it.....and you just need five cards from anywhere during the year to keep it current. No games at Emmy are required.
mate, i have spoken to them a lot/.

currently, as they are changing the fee structure on april 1, if i pay now it would still be $49 for the remainder of this moneht and then ANOTHER $121 with the new bronze fee.

their pro rata is only 50/50, no a prob though.

so i will have to pull out of the wynnum cup as there may be staunch objections to me playing with my pseduo cap. that's for another thread and a different soap box (sans moral abstensions)

[markTHEblake]

Macleod, it sounds like they are applying their own rules to the situation. They either dont know what they are doing or think they are special that they can do it their way.

The AGU handbook however doesnt mention this situation, but the whole principle of the handicap system is that a golfer would have the same handicap if he played at a 4000m par 62 or a 7000 par 72, so Corinda's logic has no logic.

I suggest ringing the QGU and querying this.

If you join Emerald lakes they will just transfer your Golf Link handicap.

[macleod]

Macleod, it sounds like they are applying their own rules to the situation. They either dont know what they are doing or think they are special that they can do it their way.

The AGU handbook however doesnt mention this situation, but the whole principle of the handicap system is that a golfer would have the same handicap if he played at a 4000m par 62 or a 7000 par 72, so Corinda's logic has no logic.

I suggest ringing the QGU and querying this.

If you join Emerald lakes they will just transfer your Golf Link handicap.
ta, i queried him fairly similarly to what you've said as i just wanted to understand the situation...having not heard of this type of arragenment before.

he said "you can be a member of 5 clubs with different handicaps", that's when i figured something was a touch off.

a handicap is in and of itself transferable across all types of course, it's purpose in the first place. can't see how i could have 2+ golflink entiries as well....

it will, theoretically, allow some people to hold a different cap their, which they can choose to apply at will to any other clubs comps....see how that doens't sound right? :-k

he seemed to mention again something about the full AGU right, but i spoke heaps to him before and he assured me it was, at this stage, the full hcap AGU designation...

meh, i will wait, don't want to find out it's a fibreglass corvette shell on a GoGo mobile engine base ;)

[Fishman Dan]

The whole Golflink thing is meant to make changing home clubs easier too. That's why i had soooo much fun moving back from Fox Hills (non Golflink) to Casino (Golflink). Great system :roll:

Casino. $140 Jan to Jan. Country Member. No hidden catches or any such funk. Real simple, they like it that way in the country ;)

[markTHEblake]

Mac, he is right in one context. A golfer can have a hundred "Club" Handicaps, which are only valid at each respective club. But a golfer can only have one "AGU" handicap. Corinda's rules have no precedence over the AGU rules.

[macleod]

The whole Golflink thing is meant to make changing home clubs easier too. That's why i had soooo much fun moving back from Fox Hills (non Golflink) to Casino (Golflink). Great system :roll:

Casino. $140 Jan to Jan. Country Member. No hidden catches or any such funk. Real simple, they like it that way in the country ;)
i classify my home town of hervey bay as 'the country' but with a beach sans surf :)

and it's a reallll simple town, look at me for instance, or don't :D

it still sounds tempting, i must go check out my reciprocal entitlements for casino

[macleod]

in further discussion...

spoke to the BDGA and the QGU about the matter today.

QGU's Ian confirmed that i should not have to reapply for my hcap by submitting cards however each club has the right to apply special conditions to any joining members.

although as i noted, can they do this in regard to the ACTUAL hcap process and the answer is of course no.

i think perhaps they would be able to request you play 5 rounds in coimp there first, get the club/social hcap and of course then it would establish the full AGU one at the same time.

For people already holding one, this would in effect simply be a joining condition, not be officially hcapped but allow them to get a player to be a fee paying comp player to join. ie. they get their knicker

fair enough, the other conditiion is that you play 10 comp rounds there during the course of a year, so fo any players hcap or not they should state a 5 game requirement for startup (not mentioning hcap) and then 10 to maintain full membership over the year.

i understand their position compltely but they should be a bit more forthcoming about it once they've bedded it down a smidge.

[markTHEblake]

Maybe Corinda should wake up to themselves. Doesnt sound like they are flush with funds does it. So what if they get 20 members who never play there. Its nice of them to promote club spirit and participation, but on the other hand money for jam for them.

Bunch of backward thinkers.

Still reckon we should formalise this lot and then affiliate ourselves to manage AGU handicaps.

[macleod]

i was going to easily fit in 10 comp rounds there as it was, it made a perfect sunday venue for me given it's proximity and it's nice and laid back.

it's a shame i have to break it down to dollars, but i dislike hidden fee structures like this, full disclosure is the best thing or simply factor in cost.

I just rang Wade again, discussed it again, mentioned QGU but he said they hadn't sorted stuff out yet, i would still have to submit cards.

so i've pulled my application, shame really :(

[markTHEblake]

Mac

Pay your 99 clams to Emmy.....get the current handicap transferred to allow Emmy to look after it.....and you just need five cards from anywhere during the year to keep it current. No games at Emmy are required.
mate, i have spoken to them a lot/.

currently, as they are changing the fee structure on april 1, if i pay now it would still be $49 for the remainder of this moneht and then ANOTHER $121 with the new bronze fee.

just confirmed with the club, its not $121 from april 1st,, its $99 like its been for the last 3 odd years. You must have said you were one of my mates and they inflated the fee to fob you off, or you spoke to the cart boy.