Distances you hate to play from

[Webster]

Mine is 130-135 metres. An 8 iron is too much, yet a 9 iron won't get me there. I have to hit the soft 8 but I rarely hit it well. Whats yours?

[Johnny Canuck]

Strange, but I used to HATE 30m. I love the short game and all the shots you get to play around the green.

If I was 25m, no problems. 40, perfect. The 30 range got in my head and killed me for ages.

[parlyboy]

agree, anything from 30 to 60 out. Ugly.

[Moe Norman]

anything under about 85m

[Jarro]

I hate the 170 - 190 meter range .... long irons are NOT my go :roll:

Maybe i need to relent and buy some more hybrids :-k

[Yossarian]

I had a real issues with 100m for a while, but I have sorted that and am now equally bad at any distance.

[Eag's]

For me 30-80m out. I find it difficult to hit the soft SW or LW. It is the one part of my game I will be spending most of my time on this year.

[ParMaster]

95-105m as I have a 10 degree in my wedges. I go from my 58 degree to my 48 degree pitching wedge. 58 goes 90 maximum and PW goes like 110 soft..

[Iain]

Anything less than a full swing, so generally 100m and under.

[Minor_Threat]

Similar to Pup for me..

110 - 90, this is the gap between SW and PW.

[Hamo84]

70-80 for me, dont seem to be able to control my pw well enough, and dont seem to be able to hit my sw that far, just seems to balloon straight up

[Yossarian]

Pup and MT, as low markers wouldn't that sort of range be the money shots for you guys?

[PeteyD]

I'd suggest their miss is somewhat different to yours and mine.

[3oneday]

20 feet.

[Yossarian]

I'd suggest their miss is somewhat different to yours and mine.


Good point. Damn I pulled that one a foot right of the hole, I am really struggling today.

[Minor_Threat]

Pup and MT, as low markers wouldn't that sort of range be the money shots for you guys?I usually manage my game to avoid that distance.. ;)

I can play from that distance quite well, I just prefer not to.

[Yossarian]

Good point MT, another reason low markers nail their approaches so much they are playing from a distance they have complete confidence in.

[Moe Norman]

I've only recently learnt to layup properly.

I used to layup to Par 5's with th longest club I could without getting into danger, now I hit whatver will get me in the range of 120-140 if I'm not going for the green.

[WBennett]

The 10-20 metre pitch/chip which has to fly and stop, especially off hard ground. Always get it thin, and go ten metres long.

Bump and run around the green is easy, but anything where I have to fly over longer grass off a thin/bare lie, I am stuffed.

[ParMaster]

Yoss,

I just find that when I try and hit a soft PW, I come over the top of it and hit it long left.. The pitch PW is something I need to work on.

But as MT said I also try and avoid that distance.

[henno]

For me 30-80m out.

Yep. I'm with you Eag's.

[Daves]

The 10-20 metre pitch/chip which has to fly and stop, especially off hard ground. Always get it thin, and go ten metres long.

Bump and run around the green is easy, but anything where I have to fly over longer grass off a thin/bare lie, I am stuffed.

That one is a toughy. Mickelson's flop shot method helped me handle these a bit better, though I still hate these shots. You have to hit them fat, weight towards the back foot, hit behind the ball and take a serious divot. You also have to swing hard because the hit is fat and less distance effective.

Something I learned though from playing with BrisVegas, don't discount other ways of getting the ball to the hole. I have used putter and 8i from the same sorts of possies to great effect. Of course if there is a big yawning bunker in the way you have little choice.

[matty]

Mine is the 125-130m mark. The 9 iron is my only disliked club.

[Toolish]

85-105. PW goes 110, SW goes about 85, 90 if Ihit it hard. GW should fit in there somewhere but doesn't really work for some reason.

Really anything from about 30-105 is a bit of an issue though. Where my game needs a lot of work, but hardest part to practice well.

[zigwah]

260+ Driver arrrrghhhh

[Grunt]

anything under about 85m


For me 30-80m out. I find it difficult to hit the soft SW or LW. It is the one part of my game I will be spending most of my time on this year.


Anything less than a full swing, so generally 100m and under.


Yep. I'm with you Eag's.

Looks as if it is teh same for alot of us. I have no faith at all in my short game from under 100m. Would much prefer 140m every time.

[haysey]

Anywhere outside of 135. I'm really only comfortable with 8 iron or less in hand

[SeldomEagles]

Anything between 500+ metres and 25 cm. Inside 25cm I reckon I am a good thing

[live4golf]

30 to 50 and 65 to 90

[mike]

30 to 80. I'm guessing at those distances.

[razaar]

Anywhere between the members tee marker and the red tee markers.Hate sluts with a passion.

[Webster]

To the guys who hate the 100m mark, why aren't you using the right wedge combo's? It's too easy. Something like 52/58 and it's problem solved?

[Jarro]

To the guys who hate the 100m mark, why aren't you using the right wedge combo's? It's too easy. Something like 52/58 and it's problem solved?

Exactly.

The gap wedge is a very underrated piece of equipment

[henno]

To the guys who hate the 100m mark, why aren't you using the right wedge combo's?

Well I said 80m or so, but that's because that's how far my full lobby goes. Anything inside that is a "feel" shot, until about 20m at which point I get to a "chip" swing with more distances to choose from again.

I find that feel shots are so hard to reproduce again and again unless you are practising them constantly.

[Moe Norman]

I have a gap wedge, I just can't hit it

[Webster]

jarro I agree although it took me a long time to work it out after spending years trying to flog the 56* to get it to the 100m mark. Beyond the PW I reckon you only need two wedges, one for pitching and one for floppin.

[KristianJ]

30 to 60 is so inconsistent for me. One round I might have that dialled in and be able to hit a 1-2m circle every time, but the next I'll end up duffing almost everyone of them because I'm not confident enough in my ability to accelerate into the shot.

I don't get many of them, but the same sort of distance bunker shot is ghastly. I'll gladly pull out PW, 9, 8 or whatever I think will help, but again, it's just the timing and acceleration that leaves me unstuck.

[Scottt]

Good point. Damn I pulled that one a foot right of the hole, I am really struggling today.

Left hander? :lol:

100-70m for me. I hate hitting SW any more than half-swing. Just put a 51* in the bag and only one round, but it came in handy a few times.

One of he great things about links golf is the extra shots you can play from 20-40m out, which has helped to mask my poor pitching from that distance.

[sms316]

To the guys who hate the 100m mark, why aren't you using the right wedge combo's? It's too easy. Something like 52/58 and it's problem solved?


Exactly.

The gap wedge is a very underrated piece of equipment

Do you guys have your shafts from 9 iron down at the same length?

[henno]

Do you guys have your shafts from 9 iron down at the same length?

I don't, but was talking to razaar at reddy bay and he seems to think it's a good idea.

[Webster]

sms, I do, but the lobby is a half inch shorter.

[sms316]

Same length makes sense. The gaps are just way too big if they are incremented.

[Jarro]

Do you guys have your shafts from 9 iron down at the same length?

I hadn't really thought about it to tell you the truth ??? :-k

[Scoot]

I struggle with the 9 iron as well.

Hit 8 iron to 140 - 145, but have trouble with the 3/4 shot to 130 - 135

9 Iron probably averages 125.

[razaar]

Dave Peltz's method of controlling distances via 1/4, 1/2, 3/4 backswing with the same tempo and follow through for all shots has alot going for it. Of course it takes dedicated practice to get it right, but what doesn't in this game.

[uahmad]

I struggle with the 9 iron as well.

Hit 8 iron to 140 - 145, but have trouble with the 3/4 shot to 130 - 135

9 Iron probably averages 125.

thats a big jump from 9i to 8i?

ie. you hit your 9i 125 and 8i 145?

i thought at most its 10m between irons?

[Scoot]

thats a big jump from 9i to 8i?

ie. you hit your 9i 125 and 8i 145?

i thought at most its 10m between irons?


That's why I struggle.

I'ts more 15m, as the 8 Iron os 140 - 145, and the 9 Iron averages 125.

So they do get out to 130, just not at the same consistency as the other clubs.

[Topper4000]

Dave Peltz's method of controlling distances via 1/4, 1/2, 3/4 backswing with the same tempo and follow through for all shots has alot going for it. Of course it takes dedicated practice to get it right, but what doesn't in this game.

I've just moved to this system, made a world of difference with my wedge play.

I use 3 wedge set up 48° 53° and 58° with a 10 O'c 9 O'c 8 O'c.
Brett Bridgman was coaching me for a couple months before he headed back over seas, he works with Jim McLean in the states, this is his system. Many focusing on distance control. Swing wise feels a little stack and tilt. Low ball flight.

For the record I hate the 440m Tee shot with a head wind. Hard to get it close to the hole.

[Bruce]

30-60m - I dump into instead of going over far too often.

125-130 - for some reason there is a 15m gap between my 9I and 8I. 8I is main practice club so that may have something to do with it.

[Golfnut]

35-55m range getts my head spinning while walking up to my ball...find it very hard to pick from SW or LW if it needs to fly.....manage ok for the bump and runs though.

[markTHEblake]

Dave Peltz's method of controlling distances via 1/4, 1/2, 3/4 backswing with the same tempo and follow through for all shots has alot going for it. Of course it takes dedicated practice to get it right, but what doesn't in this game.

and use three grip lengths and all of a sudden you got all distances covered between chips and full shots,. its too easy

[Grunt]

Does Dave Peltz' also use the 3 ball positions too.

When I had a short game clinic and practiced regularly I had this under 100 thing covered with the 1/4, 1/2, & 3/4 shot. Also had front foot, mid stance and rear foot ball position as an option too. it worked really well.

I just need to practice more.

[just]

I find the 500 metres-4 inch range really difficult to manage.

[Jarro]

I find the 500 metres-4 inch range really difficult to manage.
:lol:

Surely it wasn't that bad a day today just ? ;)

[just]

I'm on ebay looking at high MOI putters as we speak. I think the day can be summarised by hitting 11 in regulation and then three putting for a four from about twenty feet and hitting 17 in regulation and then four putting from twenty feet for a 6. There were also some suckful moments with the driver and irons.

[Yossarian]

So the lajosi? Shame? Cupboard of?

[Jarro]

If you can grind your name off the front of it just, i might be willing to give it a trial ;)

[just]

So the lajosi? Shame? Cupboard of?
Through the back of the Cupboard and into the legendary land of eternal winter beyond.

If you can grind your name off the front of it just, i might be willing to give it a trial ;)
I fear it's not worth it, I have cursed it.

[sms316]

If you can grind your name off the front of it just, i might be willing to give it a trial ;)
Going to use it as a broomstick?

[just]

Going to use it as a broomstick?
I may. Is that ghey?

[Fishman Dan]

agree, anything from 30 to 60 out. Ugly.

Ditto. Probably more 40-70 but it's that range where I can't hit any club in my bag 100%.

[Jarro]

Going to use it as a broomstick?

Maybe :-k

[Yossarian]

Through the back of the Cupboard and into the legendary land of eternal winter beyond.

I fear it's not worth it, I have cursed it.

Send it back and get him to change it to justice. The the true review can buy it.

Or a batman fan. Justice with a side order of spaghetti!

[Courty]

I may. Is that ghey?

Worse than using headcovers. It's in the camp-as-a-row-of-tents league.


... not that there's anything wrong with that. ;)

[virge666]

Anything over 135m

Hate it.

[batman10]

i have terrible touch for anything less than a full swing. I wish i had more time to work on the short game also

[virge666]

Do you guys have your shafts from 9 iron down at the same length?


makes your wedges WAY too heavy and wobby - the only way you can do this is with a grinder - or a much stiffer shaft.

Just take 1/4" off the 9i down.

make it 1/2" if you don't have 4 wedges, (PW, GW, SW, LW)

If you still struggle inside 80m - get a system, clock, gears, hands - whatever. Just get a system you can trust.

If you want I can give you one or two to try. But inside 100m is where the good A graders will kill you.

[markTHEblake]

I struggle with 155m or whatever is halfway between a 5 and 6iron. Just cant seem to hit a 5.5 iron distance.


If you want I can give you one or two to try. But inside 100m is where the good A graders will kill you.

whats too try out?

three grips on the club, normal, middle and bottom (of grip). That will rougly equal 5 metre gaps in my experience.

Then three swings, 1/4, 1/2 and 3/4 at whatever points float your boat

and then three wedges, and every distance from 30ish to 90ish is covered in very consistent increments.

[sms316]

makes your wedges WAY too heavy and wobby - the only way you can do this is with a grinder - or a much stiffer shaft.


x100 shafts and some porting sorted these issues out.

[razaar]

makes your wedges WAY too heavy and wobby - the only way you can do this is with a grinder - or a much stiffer shaft.

Just take 1/4" off the 9i down.

make it 1/2" if you don't have 4 wedges, (PW, GW, SW, LW)

If you still struggle inside 80m - get a system, clock, gears, hands - whatever. Just get a system you can trust.

If you want I can give you one or two to try. But inside 100m is where the good A graders will kill you.

Agreed mate.

Gary Calder at Indro advocates the same length shaft for all the wedges (I may have mentioned this to Henno). My wedges have a difference of 1/2 " between PW and 50*, 1/2" between 50* and 54*, 1/4" between 54*and 58*. The 50* head weighs 300 gm, the 54* 305gm and the 58* weighs 308 gm. With this setup they all swing pretty much the same.

[BrisVegas]

165m gets me a lot. In fact I made a mess of it yesterday after bombing a drive down the 17th (par 5). I can't quite get there with 6 iron and 5 iron seems too much. I seem to mess it up both ways, ie. taking a bit off a 5 or jumping on the 6 iron. I reckon I hit more greens from 200m (5 wood) than I would form 165m.

[henno]

Hit a high cut 5-iron. Done. ;-)

[Johnny Canuck]

165m gets me a lot. In fact I made a mess of it yesterday after bombing a drive down the 17th (par 5). I can't quite get there with 6 iron and 5 iron seems too much. I seem to mess it up both ways, ie. taking a bit off a 5 or jumping on the 6 iron. I reckon I hit more greens from 200m (5 wood) than I would form 165m.

Hey Vegas,

After years and years of golf, in the last month, I have started gripping down an inch to an inch in a half and putting a normal, full swing on the ball with more club when in these situations.

I have never hit so many good shots when in between clubs.

I used to always either muscle up, or hit a cut, but I am having unreal results doing this.

[Yossarian]

Especially when you thin the shit out of a six iron.

[idgolfguy]

70-85 m until today. Had been using my gap wedge for this non-full swing shots to some intermittent success.

Worked out today that my full SW is about 74m and it made a difference to my short game.

So the new problem distance is the 40-50m range.

[Johnny Canuck]

Especially when you thin the shit out of a six iron.

Mate, that was gold. I just choked up a little too much. 225m of 8 foot high beautifullness, that happened to lead to eagle.:oops:

[Yossarian]

If ever there was a time to thin one. That was it.

[BrisVegas]

Hey Vegas,

After years and years of golf, in the last month, I have started gripping down an inch to an inch in a half and putting a normal, full swing on the ball with more club when in these situations.

I have never hit so many good shots when in between clubs.

I used to always either muscle up, or hit a cut, but I am having unreal results doing this.

I'll give it a go, thanks. The cut isn't an option in the scenario I was talking about, as the ball is almost always below your feet and all the trouble is down the right.

[Johnny Canuck]

the only problem i've found with it, it that it has been working so well, i found myself wanting to play the shot all the time instead of hitting full shots.

[Hux]

I'll give it a go, thanks. The cut isn't an option in the scenario I was talking about, as the ball is almost always below your feet and all the trouble is down the right.

I was wondering what drugs Henno was on with the suggestion of a cut into the 17th at Brooky. tall timber on the left and water/bunkers right. Make for a very interesting cut in.
What about a cold topped 3 iron that just runs along the ground skirts the hazard and slides onto the green? :mrgreen:

[Hux]

For some reason anything less than a full swing is giving me grief at present.. it hadn't been but less than a full swing is killing me lately. Just haven't spent the time hitting 3/4 shots I guess.

[markTHEblake]

I'll give it a go, thanks.

You have never tried the choke down shot? I am surprised - I would have thought that every golfer plays that shot.

[adlo]

Good thread Jack.

I'd say 80-85m and 50-60m.

I can comfortably hit PW anywhere between 100-115m.
SW flies around 95m.
LW flies around 75m.

The thing that annoys me is when I choke down SW/LW and put a smaller swing on the club I generally flush it and hit it as far as normal. Obviously due to an increased chance of hitting it out of the middle.

And I hate the "clock face" method of pitching.

[sms316]

And I hate the "clock face" method of pitching.
+1

After reading a couple of Rotella books I started focussing on the flagstick in the last moment before pulling the trigger (as I always did with putting anyway). My distance control has never been better.

[Minor_Threat]

+1

After reading a couple of Rotella books I started focussing on the flagstick in the last moment before pulling the trigger (as I always did with putting anyway). My distance control has never been better.
+1 to this.

My game from 100m in started to improve heaps when I started trying to hole everything from within this range. Of course the chances of doing so are extremely slim, but your misses end up pretty good!

[Dennis]

Anything needing Driver

I'm a flusher with every other distance

[Scoot]

Anything needing Driver

I'm a flusher with every other distance

Have a lesson.

After that, join a tour.

[BrisVegas]

You have never tried the choke down shot? I am surprised - I would have thought that every golfer plays that shot.

no. Clearly, I'm not much of a thinker. Expect to see my handicap plummet now. 8)

[All-star]

I would have to say around the 185m - 210 mark, 3 and 4 iron.

[Tongueboy]

170 on with irons. going towards the hybrids now. have to agree with JC on the choke on short irons. seems to be working a treat for me at the moment.

and I can't drive for shit

[moree golfer]

170 on with irons. going towards the hybrids now. have to agree with JC on the choke on short irons. seems to be working a treat for me at the moment.

and I can't drive for shit
Your Driver was pretty straight at Wyong, Tonguey.

[Tongueboy]

not consistant MG. don't know when it is going to turn up. supposed to be the easiest club to hit and it ain't!

[markTHEblake]

no. Clearly, I'm not much of a thinker. Expect to see my handicap plummet now. 8)

Dont be too sure about that, i use the technique all the time and i still cant play a shot that is halfway between a 5 and 6 (which just happens to be a lot of par 3s), any other gap is a doddle.

Maybe i should choke up.

[razaar]

Dont be too sure about that, i use the technique all the time and i still cant play a shot that is halfway between a 5 and 6 (which just happens to be a lot of par 3s), any other gap is a doddle.

Maybe i should choke up.
Play some practice rounds with only 4 clubs - the 5 and 6-irons, putter and one other. :)

[markTHEblake]

i used to play 8 holes with only a 5 iron after work. used to knock up some decent scores sometimes. Its embarrasing though doing better than with the whole set a few days before.

I can play inbetween shots with all clubs. just not between 5 & 6.
Its probably genetic