Ozgolfer's Stats

[Trung]

Please post your stats here...

Scoring Averages
Par 3 Avg: 3.26
Par 4 Avg: 4.49
Par 5 Avg: 5.35
Avg Putts/Rd: 30.89
Avg Putts/Hole: 1.71
Avg Putts/GIR: 1.9
Avg Greens/Rd: 7.53

Skill Categories
% Fairways/Rd: 39.5%
% Greens/Rd: 41.8%
% Up/Downs: 37.1%
% Sand Saves: 9.1%
Penalties/Rd: 0.33

I need to improve on my Par 5 scoring :oops:

[Onewood]

# 18-Hole Rds: 6
Avg Score: 78.17
Low Round: 74
High Round: 83
Avg Driv Dist: 0

Scoring Averages
Par 3 Avg: 3.33
Par 4 Avg: 4.43
Par 5 Avg: 5.1
Avg Putts/Rd: 30
Avg Putts/Hole: 1.67
Avg Putts/GIR: 2
Avg Greens/Rd: 8

Skill Categories
% Fairways/Rd: 65.5%
% Greens/Rd: 44.4%
% Up/Downs: 63.6%
% Sand Saves: 25%
Penalties/Rd: 1

[Grunt]

Scoring Average

Par 3: 4.29
Par 4: 5.56
Par 5: 6.31

Best Round 85
Average Round 95.5

Average Putts/rnd:35.9
Average GIR 15%
Average Fairways 36%
Chip & Putt 21%
Bunkers (up & down) 13%
Penalties 1.1

All the above stats are from my rounds at Macarthur Grange using tap in.

[goughy]

Take a big breath everyone, and don't forget to give your eyes a rest half way through.

These stats are from my last 10 comp rounds (I only keep my comp rounds), which date back to may last year.

Best comp round is 38 (par 37) in a nine hole comp I squeezed in early friday week ago. My best 18 hole is 79, my worst 94. Average is 84.95

Par 3 - 3.55
Par 4 - 4.78
Par 5 - 5.95
F.I.R. 39% Missed L 19% R 35%
G.I.R. 27%

Approach Shots
Green 48%
Missed L 12% R 16% Short 21% Long 7% Bunker 3%

Short Game
Up & Downs 40%
Sand Saves 20%

Putting
Ave Round 32.95
Ave Hole 1.83
Ave G.I.R. 2.13
Under 4ft 1
4-10ft 1.55
11-20ft 1.98
21-30ft 2.63
31-50ft 2.71
Missed L 14% R 24% Short 12% Long 5% Low 12% High 22%

This is only a portion of what I've got. I've also got stats for each club etc etc etc. Best thing is that I really only look at a few of these stats, I just felt like making some of you dizzy. And it only takes maybe 10 to 15 minutes after the round to enter this stuff into my pda.

[goughy]

Scoring Average

Par 3: 3.29
Par 4: 4.56
Par 5: 5.31

Best Round 85
Average Round 95.5


Don't know if you noticed Grunt but your averages don't add up. If you equate those par 3, 4 and 5 averages out to an 18 hole round; say 4 x par 3 average, 10 x par 4 average and 4 x par 5 average (equal to a 72 par course) then your average round would be 80 :? :wink:

[Grunt]

I did , it was just the figures that tap in told me I thought they were way under my real averages. I will look into it.

[McMw]

Scoring Summary
Handicap: 3.3
Avg. 18 Hole: 76.42
Low 18 Hole: 70
High 18 Hole: 85
Avg. 9 Hole: 38.54
Low 9 Hole: 34
High 9 Hole: 43

Scoring Averages
Putts/Round: 30.22
Putts/Hole: 1.68
Par 3 Score: 3.32
Par 4 Score: 4.4
Par 5 Score: 5.3

Skill Categories
% Fairways/Round: 51.64%
GIRs/Round: 8.14
% GIRs/Round: 45.25%
Up & Down %: 0%
Sand Save %: 0%
Penalties/Round: 1.85

Scoring Breakdown
% of Eagles: 0%
% of Birdies: 9.37%
% of Pars: 54.48%
% of Bogeys: 28.92%
% of Doubles: 5.09%
% of Others: 2.14%

Best Hole (24 Rounds Played)
Hole 5 - 3.58 (-0.4)

Worst Hole (24 Rounds Played)
Hole 8 - 4.75 (+0.8]
Hole 10 - 4.75 (+0.8]

[jimandr]

Ahh... stats :!: They can prove anything, but do they improve your game :?: Unless you have time to practice and target your weaknesses, what's the point of proving what you should already know about your own game.

First, some comments on what I see so far.

Trung your putting is a big strength, particularly if you really average 1.9 putts per GIR. To hit more greens you may need to hit more fairways. Tweak those screws in the R7, if you're still using it.

Goughy great putting under 4 feet but awful from 20 feet plus if I read your stats correctly. Par 5's appear a big weakness.

About the only thing I can see in Onewood's stats is too many penalties, but I have a further question about how to record this.

I am a non-stats believer, but just for fun I'm going to do it for my next 10 comp rounds. I need some definitions for the purposes of consistency.

GIR - Is the putt from 3 inches off the green counted as a GIR, or as a miss, then an up and down :?: My personal view is that if you are within about a metre, and you putt, it counts as a GIR and you count the full number of putts.

Same with fairways. Are you counting strict definition, or within a metre or so :?:

The Penalty Question: Does an out of Bounds count as 2 shots, or one. Related to this and to fairways: Does a chip out from a dead position get recorded anywhere, except as a missed fairway :?: I reckon for stats purposes you might as well count it as a penalty shot.

Are you recording horrors such as duffed chips, shanks (god forbid), airswings (i've seen Grunt do one :twisted: ) plugged/impossible lies in bunkers :?:

Am I thinking too much about this :?: :?:

As my last offer, I'm going to [b]predict my stats outcome. Interesting to see if I know my game as well as I think I do.

Fairways: 9/14 GIR: 9/18 Up and Downs: 3/8 Birdies: 1 per round Doubles: 1.3 per round. Putts: 33, with 1 three putt and 4 single putts per round. Sand Saves: 1 in 5.

Par 5's: 5.3, Par 4's 4.5, Par 3's 3.7. ( In my last game, I played the threes in 5 over)

I reckon my main weaknesses are putting, long irons and sometimes chipping and sand, which is why long par 3's are my worst holes.

My greatest concern is that I'll have one really bad round that will influence the stats more than they should.

Anyway, the next chapter of my golfing life starts now.

[jimandr]

Sorry guys. A bit of trouble with the bold button. I'm too lazy to edit it.

[AndyP]

GIR - Is the putt from 3 inches off the green counted as a GIR, or as a miss, then an up and down :?: My personal view is that if you are within about a metre, and you putt, it counts as a GIR and you count the full number of putts.

Same with fairways. Are you counting strict definition, or within a metre or so :?:
If you read the scores threads you might have seen that I use the term effective fairways and approachs.
Fairways: If I haven't been penalised, with a tee shot that just goes off the fairway, why should it affect my stats.
Greens: If it's a realistic putt, that is, fringe, then it counts as a putt, and an effective approach if I got to that position in regulation.


The Penalty Question: Does an out of Bounds count as 2 shots, or one.
I've been wondering about the same thing actually, ever since Vegas referred to a 2-shot penalty for his drive on the 18 tee at Lakelands on Saturday. :?

I keep stats because I can't help myself.
Do I use them? Not really.
I'm more likely to use a stat from playing my home course. If I identify that I am struggling on a hole, I may change my strategy. An example is the par 5 7th. I noticed that I was averaging over bogey on the hole, because if my T-shot was any good, I would try to get on the green in two. I also noticed that I had never birdied it.
Changed the strategy to leaving my third a good distance out, and my first birdie followed soon after, along with more pars.

Another question, what is the point of mixing stats from previous rounds, with more recent rounds, if you have made an adjustment to your swing, like Trung?

[McMw]

I used to count all putts (even from the fringe) but when Goose won the Open at SH, they were raving abt his 11 putts....even tho he used the putter 15 times on the back nine....on fringes so tight, it's better than my green... :rolleyes:

if it's not on the fairway...it's not on the fairway...

it sux that you hit a great drive that lands on the fairway, but rolls a foot long into the rough....same can be said abt hitting the green, only to see it knock on to the back, or spin off the front...

depends on how you personally see it...I just do it as I see fit..
ball on fairway is fairway hit...
ball on green is green hit...

the GT stats is only good for me, coz it highlights which holes have been "statically" the worse and the best...and what I should be doing to improve...like hit less balls OOBs...that would help!!! :wink:

[Trung]

Jimandr,

My stats are calculated for all rounds from 1/1/2005. (Starting the year at 10.0, now at 6.4. Lowest at 6.3) :mrgreen:

With my very new conservative irons distance, I have more putts around and inside the 4m radius :smt003 . I'm happy to confirm that 1.9 putts per GIR is correct \:D/ (using Gametrack)

You are correct about fairways %. :oops: I need to hit more. :P

A big thanks to Nudgee for the TriHot 2 from North Lakes :D. It's just a damn great putter. Saw the same one in the bag of a club headpro last week :D

[McMw]

Please post your stats here...

Scoring Averages
Par 3 Avg: 3.26
Par 4 Avg: 4.49
Par 5 Avg: 5.35
Avg Putts/Rd: 30.89
Avg Putts/Hole: 1.71
Avg Putts/GIR: 1.9
Avg Greens/Rd: 7.53

Skill Categories
% Fairways/Rd: 39.5%
% Greens/Rd: 41.8%
% Up/Downs: 37.1%
% Sand Saves: 9.1%
Penalties/Rd: 0.33

I need to improve on my Par 5 scoring :oops:

why do you need to improve on your par5 scoring???
looks more like improving your par4 scoring might be more of a help...as is finding more fairways... :)

[Trung]

depends on how you personally see it...I just do it as I see fit..
ball on fairway is fairway hit...
ball on green is green hit...


Couldn't agree more =D>

... 1cm in the rough is not a fairway hit...
same with around the green.

This may be why my % are so low :-k

[Onewood]

The Penalty Question: Does an out of Bounds count as 2 shots, or one.

I count OOB as 1 penalty......I like to look at it as 0ne bad shot :roll:

[Trung]

Hole------Mtrs------Par
1 447 5------10 478 5
2 408 4------11 335 4
3 192 3------12 165 3
4 510 5------13 329 4
5 352 4------14 409 4
6 377 4------15 361 4
7 158 3------16 152 3
8 375 4------17 455 5
9 269 4------18 402 4

Out 3091 36------In 3086 36

Mau,
Those Par 5s are not long :oops:
Definately have to improve my fairway % to have more chance at those long par 4s.

[McMw]

The Penalty Question: Does an out of Bounds count as 2 shots, or one.

I count OOB as 1 penalty......I like to look at it as 0ne bad shot :roll:


WHAT??? :shock:


trung - perhaps a more conservative approach to playing the par5s might help??? are you attacking them, esp with 3 under 500mtrs???

[Onewood]

The Penalty Question: Does an out of Bounds count as 2 shots, or one.

I count OOB as 1 penalty......I like to look at it as 0ne bad shot :roll:


WHAT??? :shock:



Interesting response :roll: It is only a 1 shot penalty, distance does'nt count as a penalty although it hirts a lot :D

This is interesting what do all you stats people do with this one :?:

[Ona]

# 18-Hole Rds: 4 (not enough to draw any conclusions, well other than i cant chip, put, hit par 3's, or get u/d from bunkers :roll: :D )

Scoring Averages
Par 3 Avg: 3.5 (8 par threes will do this to ya :x )
Par 4 Avg: 4.41
Par 5 Avg: 4.9
Avg Putts/Rd: 34.5
Avg Putts/Hole: 1.92
Avg Putts/GIR: 2
Avg Greens/Rd: 10.25

Skill Categories
% Fairways/Rd: 61.4%
% Greens/Rd: 56.9%
% Up/Downs: 23.1% :cry:
% Sand Saves: 0% (3 attempts i think)
Penalties/Rd: 1

[Ona]

For an OOB i put it two shots, then i assume it (gametrack) averages them out, so that if i play 2 rounds, hit it OOB once, penalties/rd would be 1.

[Onewood]

1 447 5
10 478 5
4 510 5
17 455 5


Mau,
Those Par 5s are not long :oops:
Definately have to improve my fairway % to have more chance at those long par 4s.

Pretty long if you can only hit your 7iron 120mts :wink: :lol: :lol:

[McMw]

I put OOBs as 2 under penalty...as it should be... :wink:


I've racked up 2 lots of 4 penalty shots (on one hole) since my GT induction...

[Onewood]

I put OOBs as 2 under penalty...as it should be... :wink:


I've racked up 2 lots of 4 penalty shots (on one hole) since my GT induction...

I'm still lost as to why its 2 shots :D if you hit from a hazzard its (one in, drop 1 shot penalty = 2, hitting 3) If its OOB its (one out, reload 1 shot penalty = 2, hitting 3) :roll: no wonder your scores are blowing out...... your penalising yourself an exrta shot you silly bugger :lol: :lol:

[McMw]

NO....the only thing that's blowing out is my Penalties Per Round average...

if I hit two balls out of bounds on a par 4, and make par with the third ball, it's an 8 on my score column, and 4 on my penalty column....

so I'm not blowing out my stroke average...

[Onewood]

I know what you're saying :wink: but is'nt it the same as if you count a fairway as hit, if it's a foot in the rough....it's still a fairway missed

So it's not a 2 shot penalty it's only ONE :D So we'll agree that you count it as 2 and I'll count it as 1 :D

[McMw]

it can't be just a one stroke penalty....just doesn't make sense!!! :wink:

what happened to the first shot??? where is that accounted for??? :lol:

[Onewood]

it can't be just a one stroke penalty....just doesn't make sense!!! :wink:

what happened to the first shot??? where is that accounted for??? :lol:

Good debate this one :D

What happens when you hit it into a water hazard is the first shot counted or do you count that as a 2 shot penalty aswell.....what your doing is calling distance a penalty shot, but its not a penalty shot :roll:

[McMw]

driver into the drink - 1
penalty drop NEXT to the drink - 1
shot onto the green - 1
(3 on green)

driver OOB - 1
penalty drop from same place - 1
driver - 1
(3 on fairway)


you say distance cannot be a penalty shot?
then what exactly do you think is happening when you're re-teeing your 2nd ball???


come to think of it...are you actually on gametrack???
doesn't seem like it, so this "debate" is worthless... :lol:


actually, If I followed your method, I would be telling myself that I'm "in fact" taking more shots per round, instead of taking more penalty shots...

[Onewood]

come to think of it...are you actually on gametrack???
doesn't seem like it, so this "debate" is worthless... :lol:


I am on gametrack, for some reason I joined a couple of years ago under the name---- handicaper---- :roll:

[Ona]

lets get this back on track.

http://www.golfpunkmag.com/images/golfnurse-main1.jpg

[Grunt]

I fixed up the scoring averages in my stats they should make more sense now.[/quote]

[AndyP]

actually, If I followed your method, I would be telling myself that I'm "in fact" taking more shots per round, instead of taking more penalty shots...
You are taking more shots per round. You hit the first one OOB, didn't you?

What if you hit it into the water directly in front of you, and drop the ball in the same spot? By your logic, that is also a 2 shot penalty.
Lost ball also a 2-shot penalty?

And now for the hard evidence:
27-1. Ball Lost or Out of Bounds
If a ball is lost or is out of bounds, the player must play a ball,
under penalty of one stroke, as nearly as possible at the spot
from which the original ball was last played (see Rule 20-5).

------

Thanks for the distraction, Ona.

[BrisVegas]

GameTrack Handicap: 7.04
# 18-Hole Rds: 16
Avg Score: 82.56
Low Round: 76
High Round: 91

Scoring Averages
Par 3 Avg: 3.74
Par 4 Avg: 4.54
Par 5 Avg: 5.33

Skill Categories
% Fairways/Rd: 69.7%
% Greens/Rd: 45.6%
Avg Putts/Rd: 33.27

The thing I don't get is... If I'm averaging 82 lately, my handicap should be 10, not 7??? :roll: :?

[AndyP]

The thing I don't get is... If I'm averaging 82 lately, my handicap should be 10, not 7??? :roll: :?
Gametrack takes the best 10 scores of your last 20 (in your case best 8 ) to calculate the handicap.

[McMw]

u lot must have your "golfing-hat" on :wink:
I've got my acc hat on... :lol:

well...like we've mentioned before, Kev will do with his 1 stroke, and I'll do with my 2 strokes....

I like to know that if I made a quad on a par4, after 2 OOBs, I made par with the 3rdball, and not double with it.... 8)

[Jarro]

Stats Overview
Handicap 8
# 18-Hole Rds: 7
Avg Score: 82.29
Low Round: 74
High Round: 87

Scoring Averages
Par 3 Avg: 3.74
Par 4 Avg: 4.73
Par 5 Avg: 5.41
Avg Putts/Rd: 30.83
Avg Putts/Hole: 1.71
Avg Putts/GIR: 2
Avg Greens/Rd: 5.83

Skill Categories
% Fairways/Rd: 39%
% Greens/Rd: 32.4%
% Up/Downs: 46.9%
% Sand Saves: 0%

[Trung]

Trung your putting is a big strength, particularly if you really average 1.9 putts per GIR. To hit more greens you may need to hit more fairways. Tweak those screws in the R7, if you're still using it.

This is a good advice and I'm pleased to let you know that I took it up :wink: .

I went and saw Paul @ Advantage Custom Clubmakers - Crows Nest today.

* I have a stock Regular in the R7. Did all the testing with Paul's equipment.....Damn, it's not even a Regular, it's almost an A-FLEX shaft :shock:
Now I know why when I miss with the driver, it's usually LEFT.
* Nakashima 3-Wood... Hardest club to hit in my bag and now I also know why. Suppose to be a D1 swing weight, measured at C6.6 :shock:
* RM3 with a stiff steel shaft, this thing is easy to hook because it's just a soft regular :shock:
* My 2 RAC wedges are stiffer than all my irons. (I knew this already)
* My other irons are fine.. Phewwwwwww :idea:

Changes.
* Driver + 3 wood, reshaft with 2 new engines and ready for the weekend :D
* RM3.. I'm happy with it being soft as I can hook my way out from inside thick bushes :P
* RAC Wedges... change from S300 to R300 to match all my other irons :idea:

Hopefully my game will improve with more fairway hits :idea:

[Fishman Dan]

You've been shooting mid-70's for a month, 21 points over 9 the other day, and you made all those changes?

I think Pete's and my prices have just shortened for Sunday ;) :lol:

[Jarro]

* Driver + 3 wood, reshaft with 2 new engines and ready for the weekend :D


.. so what are you getting :?:

[Trung]

* Driver + 3 wood, reshaft with 2 new engines and ready for the weekend :D


.. so what are you getting :?:

Grafalloy Prolite 35 for both :smt023

[BrisVegas]

* Driver + 3 wood, reshaft with 2 new engines and ready for the weekend :D


.. so what are you getting :?:

Grafalloy Prolite 35 for both :smt023

Good shaft! Did the clubmaker offer you the Grafalloy Blue also?? I would have thought the blue would be easier to hit than the 35S... Í had Prolite 35S in my last two drivers and it's currently in my 3 wood. No complaints here.

Good work on getting your gear checked out. You're a good example to us all... :wink: 8)

[Trung]

BrisVegas, I tried the BLUE & the Prolite 35S, computer came up with Prolite 35S so I had no choice 8)

35S in the driver, and 35R in the 3-wood and he will make it a little stiffer in the 3-wood to match. :D

[jimandr]

Wow, I started a monster with my questions here. Just as well there are plenty of smiling face emoticons, like this one :D

Anyway, here's what I'm going to record.

I like Andy's definition of effective fairways and greens, so if I'm 6 inches off the fairway after having landed in the middle and rolled off into a perfect lie (which happens a lot on the sloping fairways of my course) I'm counting it. And if I putt from just off, having actually hit the green then trickled off, I'm counting that as a GIR.

I'm going to record any penalty where you lose more than 150m as two shots. After all, if you are lying three instead of one, thats a two shot penalty in my book (fortunately, all the OOB is to the right, and I normally miss left at my home course, so it shouldn't matter).

The Carnarvon Sunday report will be one of the most eagerly awaited reports in forum history. I'll be away, so I won't get to see it until Friday week, but I'll be dying to know if the Tweaking Of The Clubs if effective or not.

[McMw]

trung - how much is all that gonna cost???

I'm happy with the way my clubs feel, so just wondering if I need to go thru all that process when I'm back in Perth...just for peace of mind!!!


back onto the penalty strokes topic :wink:
I had 4 penalty strokes in my 74...2 from hazard drops, 2 from OOB

8)

[Jono]

BrisVegas, I tried the BLUE & the Prolite 35S, computer came up with Prolite 35S so I had no choice 8)

35S in the driver, and 35R in the 3-wood and he will make it a little stiffer in the 3-wood to match. :D

Trung,

Did you get your swing tested out on their Golftek machine and the True Temper Shaft lab? 35S is a pretty stiff shaft, especially if going into a deep bore. I'm not sure what the bore depth on the R7 is though. What was your driver swing speed on his Golftek machine?

BTW, didn't you get the Nak 3W from Terence? Or was it from Nudgee who got it from Terence? In either case, T has a lot to answer for ... :wink:

[Onewood]

trung - how much is all that gonna cost???

I'm happy with the way my clubs feel, so just wondering if I need to go thru all that process when I'm back in Perth...just for peace of mind!!!


back onto the penalty strokes topic :wink:
I had 4 penalty strokes in my 74...2 from hazard drops, 2 from OOB
8)

:D did you go OOB twice :lol: :lol: OK OK enough is enough :wink:

Without the reshafting I think it's around $5 a club last time I had mine checked...

[McMw]

the 35s is good if you're a smooth swinger or a hard hitter...not really suitable if you're somewhere in btw... :D

I'm surprised it's a 35r going into the 3wood tho...

[Trung]

I'm happy with the way my clubs feel, so just wondering if I need to go thru all that process when I'm back in Perth...just for peace of mind!!!
You should do it :smt023


the 35s is good if you're a smooth swinger or a hard hitter...not really suitable if you're somewhere in btw... :D

I'm surprised it's a 35r going into the 3wood tho...

35r is going in the 3-wood but will play between regular and stiff (as per Paul).


What was your driver swing speed on his Golftek machine?

98 & 99 with the Golftek machine

Measured at more than 100 with Stephen's swing speed tester at Olympic Park :-k . Top Speed 108....


Jono... Did all the test, hopefully the computer is right.. :P

[Trung]

Damn Taylor Made...

Found another problem today.

Went to see Paul & Garry again this morning. Paul did a test on all my irons lie angle for free... All my irons are now 1* flat as per my specs.

3-Iron..... @64*.... suppose to be 58* for a 3-iron... I have no idea why it's 6* upright :? . :?:
Paul said to take it back to AL's so then can send it back to TaylorMade for factory to check. :evil:
Hardest club to hit from the ground, and now I know why.

The Driver and 3-wood with new shafts are sweet, have not test the two wedges with R300 shaft in it yet. Will do it tonight at Olympic Park.

Mau.. It was expensive but now I'm happy.

My wishes are...
1. more fairways with the driver
2. more confident hitting 3-wood into par 5s
3. more control with the 2 wedges now that I have R300 in them

4. The RM3 is an soft Regular (rather than Stiff as per Taylore Made sticker on the shaft). I can live with this problem. Find it easier to hook the ball :D

[McMw]

question - HOW could you not notice the toe sticking up on the 3iron???


irons bent 1 degree flat thru the set??? you have the LTs right??? guess it's not too much drama to bend cast irons 1degree either way then...

[Trung]

question - HOW could you not notice the toe sticking up on the 3iron???

:oops: I was never taught what to look out for. :oops:


irons bent 1 degree flat thru the set??? you have the LTs right??? guess it's not too much drama to bend cast irons 1degree either way then...

Irons are LTs, and now they are all 1* flat.

Taylor Made said you can do it up to 4* either way, I think Paul said you can do up to 2* either way :?

[McMw]

how long you gonna be without the 3iron???
wonder what TM's response would be???

a brand new set of LT2s??? :wink:

[Iain]

a brand new set of LT2s??? :wink:
:smt078 :smt078 :smt078 :smt078

[Trung]

how long you gonna be without the 3iron???
wonder what TM's response would be???

a brand new set of LT2s??? :wink:

I don't think so Mau :D

You should work at Taylor Made :lol:

At best. A new replacement 3-iron
At worst. Same club, bent back to 48*

[Onewood]

I took all the stats to date and put them into excel, then done a search in each cat. and come up with the SITE NUMBER ONES :P


Avg Score: site #1 Mau, 76.42
Low Round: site #1 Mau, 70
High Round: Site #1 Goughy, 94

Scoring Averages
Par 3 Avg: Site #1 Trung, 3.26
Par 4 Avg:Site #1 Mau, 4.4
Par 5 Avg: Site #1 Ona, 4.9
Avg Putts/Rd: Site #1 onewood, 30
Avg Putts/Hole: Site #1 onewood, 1.67
Avg Putts/GIR: site #1 Trung, 1.9
Avg Greens/Rd: Site #1 Ona, 10.25

Skill Categories
% Fairways/Rd: Site #1 BrisVegas, 69.70%
% Greens/Rd: Site #1 Ona, 56.90%
% Up/Downs: Site #1 onewood, 63.60%
% Sand Saves: Site #1 Eags, 50%
Penalties/Rd: Site #1 Trung, .33

[McMw]

Kev....reckon I could give u a run for your money... :wink:


Scoring Average
Par 3 Avg: 3.32
Par 4 Avg: 4.39
Par 5 Avg: 5.33
Avg Putts/Rd: 30.19
Avg Putts/Hole: 1.67
Avg Putts/GIR: 1.9
Avg Greens/Rd: 8.2




nice work on the stats tho...briz must be OzGolf's very own Fred Funk... 8)

[Onewood]

Scoring Averages
Putts/Round: 30.22
Putts/Hole: 1.68
Par 3 Score: 3.32
Par 4 Score: 4.4
Par 5 Score: 5.3



I went off what I had :D and I got yeh by a Nose :D But I'm happy to share the honors with yeh :P

[Onewood]

...briz must be OzGolf's very own Fred Funk...

Yeh thats some impressive driving accuracy :shock: 8)

[Onewood]

Scoring Averages
Putts/Round: 30.22
Putts/Hole: 1.68
Par 3 Score: 3.32
Par 4 Score: 4.4
Par 5 Score: 5.3



I went off what I had :D and I got you by a Nose :D But I'm happy to share the honors with you :P

[McMw]

just joshing... :wink: :lol:

am I leading the "most" penalties??? 8)

[Onewood]

am I leading the "most" penalties??? 8)

:lol: :lol: Not going there :wink: :D but yes 1.85/next is 1 :D

[McMw]

cool!!!

got another 2 this evening... :roll:

[Onewood]

cool!!!

got another 2 this evening... :roll:

Don't you hate that .....2 water hazards .......in one round :lol: :lol:

[McMw]

not even.... :wink:

[Jono]

At best. A new replacement 3-iron
At worst. Same club, bent back to 48*

You mean 58*, right? :wink:

Were you actually tested for the dynamic lie angle? Also, did Paul measure your clubs on the lie/loft guage or did he measure it on the bending machine? His bending machine is a couple of degrees out. What I do when I go there to check my loft and lie angles is to get them to measure it on the guage and THEN bend as necessary (ie. flatter/more upright/stronger loft/weaker loft) on the bending machine.

Forged clubs can usually be bent up to 4*. 6* out for your 3 iron is a lot. It could potentially snap if you tried to bend it that much so you are doing the right thing by sending it back to Taylormade. I'd be interested to hear what they have to say about such an error. You'd never find a quality component product (say Golfsmith or Wishon) that much out. :?

BTW, what prompted you to check out the specs of your clubs? Did they feel a bit wrong to start with?

[Jono]

nice work on the stats tho...briz must be OzGolf's very own Fred Funk... 8)

Well, if we had average driving distance, Bris would probably be leading as well. So he's our Hank Kuehne and Fred Funk rolled into one ... :lol:

Oh, and if we had stats for the ugliest hat, he'd be leading that too ... :wink:

[BrisVegas]

nice work on the stats tho...briz must be OzGolf's very own Fred Funk... 8)

Well, if we had average driving distance, Bris would probably be leading as well. So he's our Hank Kuehne and Fred Funk rolled into one ... :lol:

Oh, and if we had stats for the ugliest hat, he'd be leading that too ... :wink:

Hey! I heard that. :evil:

Don't push me. I got another couple of bucket hats way worse than this one.... :twisted:

[AndyP]

High Round: Site #1 Goughy, 94
Don't feel bad, goughy. I didn't put my stats up, so add 10 to that score for me.

Shouldn't the site #1 be the person with the lowest worst score anyway?

[goughy]

Don't worry andyp, I'm not really concerned about the scores. I'm sure there are plenty of scores like that from people. And you've seen my driving - bound to get some scores like that once in a while (or fairly regularily). I any include any social rounds in my stats. Too many gimmie's and second balls hit to make it worth while.

I did also have a 1 over par 9 hole comp round on the back 9 at city that I'm pretty proud of. Pity it didn't include the front nine cause I was on a streak. Missed my up & down out of the 18th bunkers for a par and my first par round over 9 holes. 1 Over for 9 is still my best.

Now to get my g2 and start hitting fairways (cause you know it's the clubs fault, not mine :wink: )

[McMw]

am I leading the "most" penalties??? 8)

:lol: :lol: Not going there :wink: :D but yes 1.85/next is 1 :D

up to 1.98 per round now.... :roll:

[Onewood]

am I leading the "most" penalties??? 8)

:lol: :lol: Not going there :wink: :D but yes 1.85/next is 1 :D

up to 1.98 per round now.... :roll:

Here's one for you :roll: I hit one into a water hazard today (water in front of tee) and had to reload off the tee :cry:

:?: :?: is that a 1 or 2 shot penalty :?: :?:

[Trung]

1 mate...

Drop 2, playing 3 8)

[Onewood]

1 mate...

Drop 2, playing 3 8)

Thanks Trung 8)

So whats the diff between that and going OOB :D

Is it still only a 1 shot penalty :smt102

[Trung]

OOB... Drop 2, playing 3 from the tee. (1 stroke penalty)


OOB feels like 2 strokes penalty because you will be hitting your 4th shot down the fairway 8) comparing to your mate (that's me) playing my 2nd from around the same spot. :P

[AndyP]

OOB... Drop 2, playing 3 from the tee. (1 stroke penalty)
Trung, we know what the rules say the penalty is, but I think Kev is asking what McMw counts it as in his stats, as per an earlier discussion. McMw counts an OOB as a 2 shot penalty.

[Onewood]

If you all post your stats at the end of each month I will update the #1 site averages 8)


And I might adjust Mau's penalty count per round :lol:

[McMw]

am I leading the "most" penalties??? 8)

:lol: :lol: Not going there :wink: :D but yes 1.85/next is 1 :D

up to 1.98 per round now.... :roll:

Here's one for you :roll: I hit one into a water hazard today (water in front of tee) and had to reload off the tee :cry:

:?: :?: is that a 1 or 2 shot penalty :?: :?:

you didn't have to reload off the tee (tho I would guess it would be easier to play a tee shot than to have at Point Of Entry)...my stat would be a 1 stroke penalty...

anything that goes OOBs is a 2 stroke penalty in my GT tracking...

FYI...I had 2 OOBs (on the 8th - hooked) and on the 13th (weak fade), and a 1 stroker on the 11th, punched out from the trees, and into the pond... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Trung]

you didn't have to reload off the tee (tho I would guess it would be easier to play a tee shot than to have at Point Of Entry)...my stat would be a 1 stroke penalty...

Incorrect Mau. :wink:
You must re-play the ball from the original position. (hence if you teed it OOB, you are required to re-load from the tee) :wink:

[McMw]

trung - I was referring to onewood's duffer into the drink!!! :wink:

[Trung]

whoooops #-o

I should have read more of your post. :oops:

[markTHEblake]

I had a ball move on me today, one stroke penalty. As it wasnt really the kind of error I want to track do I count it as a penalty or an extra putt?

[Onewood]

I had a ball move on me today, one stroke penalty. As it wasnt really the kind of error I want to track do I count it as a penalty or an extra putt?

Being a stats expert I would say count it :D

It's like when you have a real hack of a hole and end up with a par :roll: you don't have to write a story on your card how you got there :wink: Same as a Penalty shot, it does'nt say it the stats records what type of Penalty, it just uses numbers, so if your ball moved it's a 1 stroke penalty, if it goes into the water it's a 1 stroke penalty and if it goes OOB it's a 1 stroke penalty (in Australia anyway :lol: )

[Trung]

Did a quick hole to hole stats with gametrack.

@ 5.36 on a Par 4th 2nd hole is very bad for me. I have got to take it easy there :oops:

Jono, what is the longest green at Carnarvon? :wink:


http://img122.exs.cx/img122/1307/carnie8sx.jpg

[McMw]

at least u've got 5 holes at even par or better....I only have the 2... :(

http://img14.imgspot.com/u/05/45/02/untitled.JPG

[McMw]

damn....I went up a shot on 17... :(

[Trung]

Whats with the 5th hole? (same for both of us) :wink:

[Ona]

hole by hole is a great feature. only, when i reset my stats at the start of this year, it clearedf everything but the hole by hole figures :? I dont want those poxy numbers dragging me down damnit :x

[Speirsy11]

Ok, I ain't been 'round much, so here we go.......

Handicap: 0.63
Avg. 18 Hole: 75.13
Low 18 Hole: 67
High 18 Hole: 83

% Fairways/Round: 61.78%
GIRs/Round: 10.63
% GIRs/Round: 59.08%
Up & Down %: 41.13%
Sand Save %: 69.77%
Penalties/Round: 0.75

Putts/Round: 31.24
Putts/Hole: 1.74
Par 3 Score: 3.43
Par 4 Score: 4.25
Par 5 Score: 4.75

% of Eagles: 0.81%
% of Birdies: 13.41%
% of Pars: 58.13%
% of Bogeys: 22.22%
% of Doubles: 4.88%
% of Others: 0.54%

Too many penalty strokes, too many putts per round........Pretty good from the sand, and I hit it pretty straight for a longish hitter :oops:

Speirsy11

[Ona]

Handicap: 0.63

Low 18 Hole: 67

Sand Save %: 69.77%

Par 5 Score: 4.75

% of Birdies: 13.41%

Pretty good from the sand, and I hit it pretty straight for a longish hitter :D



ahh thats better

[Speirsy11]

Handicap: 0.63

Low 18 Hole: 67

Sand Save %: 69.77%

Par 5 Score: 4.75

% of Birdies: 13.41%

Pretty good from the sand, and I hit it pretty straight for a longish hitter :D



ahh thats better

:lol: :lol: :lol:

It's all relative right?

:wink:

Speirsy11

[Ona]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

It's all relative right?

:wink:

I hear that Speirsy. most people look at me weird when I get excited over sinking a 4 footer :roll:

was strange to follow a positive with an ( :oops: ) tas all. it wouldnt feel right if I didnt point it out, multiple times if thats what it takes :lol: :P

[Speirsy11]

The :oops: was more of an "Aww shucks" after saying I was pretty long.....Didn;t want to come across as saying I was some long ball hitter or anything.....

So, who is keeping the leader board for this? Want to see how I stack up against the rest of OzGolf......It'll be a little motivation to hit more fairways and greens; maybe even learn to roll it a little better......

Speirsy11

[BrisVegas]

So, who is keeping the leader board for this? Want to see how I stack up against the rest of OzGolf......It'll be a little motivation to hit more fairways and greens; maybe even learn to roll it a little better......

Speirsy11

That'll be onewood. You're already at or near the top in all the stats. 8)

[McMw]

no one can take my spot away from the Penalties Per Round!!! NO ONE!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Speirsy11]

no one can take my spot away from the Penalties Per Round!!! NO ONE!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

You can keep it.......But I'll gladly take your putts per round avg.

Speirsy11

[AndyP]

no one can take my spot away from the Penalties Per Round!!! NO ONE!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
My penalties would average over 2 in Gametrack if I counted them the same way you do. As it stands, it is over 1.6.

[McMw]

seems like I'm an at a huge disadvantage on my course, with only 2 par5s... :(

as such, I'm averaging 5.3 something...and compared to some other stats here, that's way too high... :(

having said that, I don't assume my playing 4 par5s would see a lower score average... :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:

[BrisVegas]

can some one bring me up to speed on how to track penalties in game track? (I just went back and tracked s/s, u&d and penalties for the Lakelands game).

11/14
7 GIR
31 putts
3/6 U&D
0/3 SS
4 penalties (2 x OOB)

I assumed that if I hit it OB that counts as a "2" in the penalties section for the hole... Is this how everyone else is tracking it? :?

Also... If I miss a green in a bunker, do I track it as a SS or U&D ??

[Speirsy11]

can some one bring me up to speed on how to track penalties in game track? (I just went back and tracked s/s, u&d and penalties for the Lakelands game).

11/14
7 GIR
31 putts
3/6 U&D
0/3 SS
4 penalties (2 x OOB)

I assumed that if I hit it OB that counts as a "2" in the penalties section for the hole... Is this how everyone else is tracking it? :?

Also... If I miss a green in a bunker, do I track it as a SS or U&D ??

If you hit it in a bunker and get it up and down, it is a "S" in both SS and U&D columns......And I also track my OOB the same as you.....

Speirsy11

[Ona]

I assumed that if I hit it OB that counts as a "2" in the penalties section for the hole... Is this how everyone else is tracking it? :?
thats how I do them. so does Mau i think


Also... If I miss a green in a bunker, do I track it as a SS or U&D ??
if your in the bunker for reg. then your shooting for a SS. around the green for reg. and your shooting for an u/d.

[Speirsy11]

I just realized that I suck at playing par 3's......3.43 avg? Yikes......

Speirsy11

[Ona]

oh you tick both Speirsy.. anyone else do that? that'd make my U&D % even worse :shock:

[BrisVegas]

I assumed that if I hit it OB that counts as a "2" in the penalties section for the hole... Is this how everyone else is tracking it? :?
thats how I do them. so does Mau i think


Also... If I miss a green in a bunker, do I track it as a SS or U&D ??
if your in the bunker for reg. then your shooting for a SS. around the green for reg. and your shooting for an u/d.

Thanks! I think that's a good idea to separate normal greenside chipping and bunker play. They're different skills. Skills which I seriously lack.... :lol:

[Ona]

just looked on gametrack. the official ss definition is any u/d from a bunker, does not need to be a par save. thats how i'll do it from now. not that it'll make any difference

[Speirsy11]

just looked on gametrack. the official ss definition is any u/d from a bunker, does not need to be a par save. thats how i'll do it from now. not that it'll make any difference

What good is getting up and down from a bunker if it's for bogey or worse? On TOUR, a SS is when you get up and down from a bunker for par or better.......

I'll stick to that, might not looks as good for stats, but I'm not going to reward myself for a bogey.

Speirsy11

[BrisVegas]

Spiersy & ona

Hope I haven't opened a can of worms here... That same logic could apply to up and downs to I suppose. I mean, should you get credit for U&D even if it was for triple-bogey etc.. ? Is the stat about recording skill at a certain aspect of the game or does it only count if it's for par...?

The former is fairer and more useful for the high hcapers.

[AndyP]

can some one bring me up to speed on how to track penalties in game track? .....
I assumed that if I hit it OB that counts as a "2" in the penalties section for the hole... Is this how everyone else is tracking it? :?

Also... If I miss a green in a bunker, do I track it as a SS or U&D ??
There has already been a bit of discussion on the penalties in this thread. I think there was an agreement to disagree.

Realistically you should collect stats in a way that will be more useful to you when you look back at them. Regardless of formal definitions.


What good is getting up and down from a bunker if it's for bogey or worse? On TOUR, a SS is when you get up and down from a bunker for par or better.......
As you are a low marker, it is not as useful to you, as it was probably your approach that went in the bunker. This is not always the case for others.
Marking an up & down from a bunker, gives a better indication of how one is playing out of the sand.

[AndyP]

The former is fairer and more useful for the high hcapers.
This is the same thing that Gametrack mentions in it's definitions.

[BrisVegas]

The former is fairer and more useful for the high hcapers.
This is the same thing that Gametrack mentions in it's definitions.

Oh, well there you go... Great minds think alike huh. :wink: :lol:

[Speirsy11]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but as a high marker, isn't your goal to improve and become a lower marker? If so, doesn't it make sense to keep the stats the way low markers do (as unflattering as that may be) in order to measure yourself against better players?

I can see what you mean, about it being a "sand save" if you get it out and down with only one putt after getting into a bunker, but that is not a true sand save, as you have saved nothing. Know what I mean? If you are looking to use the stats to measure improvement, then you have to use them as honestly and harshly as you can, otherwise it is not an accurate measure of your skills relative to those who are better players.

I guess the most accurate way to do it would be to count it as a sand save if you get it up and down for your handicapped par on that hole........

But feel free to do as you please, this is just a suggestion.....

Speirsy11

[BrisVegas]

I only asked for the sake of comparison. Onewood has started comparing everyone's stats on golftrack, so I thought that we should have a level playing field. It's misleading to compare fairway and GIR stats if people are using different interpretations.

I'm happy to go with whatever definition we agree on. For me personally, I don't count it as a fairway hit or a green hit if it's "just" off. The pro's don't, so I don't.

[AndyP]

If you are looking to use the stats to measure improvement, then you have to use them as honestly and harshly as you can, otherwise it is not an accurate measure of your skills relative to those who are better players.
Are stats meant to be measured up against other players?

I haven't listed my stats, because I don't see the point in comparing them to other players. I look at them and determine where I think I need to improve.

[McMw]

What does "Up & Down" and "Sand Save" mean?
One of the great things about GameTrack is that it is designed with flexibility to accommodate any golfer. This applies to the Up & Down and Sand Saves categories as well. You are welcome to interpret them as you see fit to help improve your game. The strict definition of a successful "Sand Save" is if you can get out of the sand from a greenside bunker in one stoke and make the following putt, regardless of your total score for that hole. You do not have to make par on the hole to get a sand save. An "Up & Down" is when you miss the green in regulation, but still get out of the rough and onto the green (up) and into the hole (down) in par. The main difference between these and Sand Saves is that you must save par to get an Up & Down while Sand Saves can occur anytime. You can use GameTrack to track those "official" definitions or you can track your own versions by marking attempts and successes for Sand Saves and Up & Downs to see your rate of success for these types of shots. The second way is better for novice golfers so they can track improvement in their short games and because saving par and sand saving isn't as common for them.

[AndyP]

I'm happy to go with whatever definition we agree on. For me personally, I don't count it as a fairway hit or a green hit if it's "just" off. The pro's don't, so I don't.
As you know, I don't record them this way.

On the courses that pros play on, they are more often than not punished for rolling just off a fairway.
On the courses I play on, you sometimes can hardly tell the difference.

What if I was to intentionally aim for a spot off a fairway, because it would be to my advantage for the next shot? If I succeed in hitting it there, should my stats be reflecting a miss?

[McMw]

What does "Greens in Regulation" mean?
Reaching the "Green in Regulation" means that you have reached the green and are putting for birdie or better. Simply track every time you do this on your scorecard with a checkmark. In order to have a GIR on a par 3, you would have to be on the green in 1 stroke. For a par 4 it would be in 2 strokes and a par 5 would be in 3 strokes.

[BrisVegas]

What if I was to intentionally aim for a spot off a fairway, because it would be to my advantage for the next shot? If I succeed in hitting it there, should my stats be reflecting a miss?

No. They should show:-

Flukes 1/1.

:lol: :wink:

[McMw]

or....

Delusional 1/1

8) :lol:

[AndyP]

What if I was to intentionally aim for a spot off a fairway, because it would be to my advantage for the next shot? If I succeed in hitting it there, should my stats be reflecting a miss?

No. They should show:-

Flukes 1/1.

:lol: :wink:
Are you suggesting that I can't hit a spot 240+ metres away?

Perhaps I should have used "vast area" instead of "spot", or "one" instead of "I".

Thanks for pointing out another of my inadequacies.

[terryand]

or....

Delusional 1/1

8) :lol:

Cool, is this beat up on AndyP day....

Can I join in http://deephousepage.com/smilies/fight.gif http://deephousepage.com/smilies/chair1.gif


Terry.

[AndyP]

or....

Delusional 1/1

8) :lol:

Cool, is this beat up on AndyP day....

Can I join in http://deephousepage.com/smilies/fight.gif http://deephousepage.com/smilies/chair1.gif

Terry, since when have you needed a special day for that?

[BrisVegas]

Are you suggesting that I can't hit a spot 240+ metres away?

Perhaps I should have used "vast area" instead of "spot", or "one" instead of "I".

Thanks for pointing out another of my inadequacies.

It's all good Andy. You're leading the ozgolf money list, which makes you a tall poppy. It is our role to try and put you off your game using whatever means at our disposal. :wink:

But yes, had you said a "vast area, adjacent to, but not including the mown fairway" instead of "spot", I feel you've a right to claim it as a:-

Deliberate missed fairway - 1/1

[terryand]

or....

Delusional 1/1

8) :lol:

Cool, is this beat up on AndyP day....

Can I join in http://deephousepage.com/smilies/fight.gif http://deephousepage.com/smilies/chair1.gif

Terry, since when have you needed a special day for that?

True :oops:

Terry.

[Trung]

Deliberate missed fairway - 1/1
I would have many of those :smt078 :smt112
=============================

SS - out of the bunker and sunk the putt
(I don't care how many shots it took me to the bunker :oops: )

U/D - greenside, chip and putt
(I don't care how many shots it took for me to greenside :oops: )

FAIRWAY is fairway, 1cm off the fairway is counted as a miss (by me). You don't win the Ozgolf long drive comp even if you are longest but 1cm off the fairway. Do you? :wink:

[markTHEblake]

Andy, There are a couple of holes at my home whereby I deliberately aim into the rough or another fairway, and if i hit where I aimed it I tick that of as a FW hit.

On the other hand if I aim right and hook the guts out of it and I make the fairway of the hole I am on, i will put that down as a Missed fairway.

Same thing applies to GIR's. If i aim for a pin thats on the right side of the green and i hit it way left but still on the dance floor, I'll put that down as a miss.

Like others i record my stats to be meaningfull to me, it doesnt matter how i count them, as long as I apply the same rule constantly I can benefit from the long term trends.

[Onewood]

Same thing applies to GIR's. If i aim for a pin thats on the right side of the green and i hit it way left but still on the dance floor, I'll put that down as a miss.



So if you 2 putt from there do you call it a U/D :roll:
So if you 1 Putt from there do you call that no putt's :roll:

Hope you bloke's can count and don't just right down a score that suits your stats :lol: :lol:

[Trung]

Same thing applies to GIR's. If i aim for a pin thats on the right side of the green and i hit it way left but still on the dance floor, I'll put that down as a miss.



So if you 2 putt from there do you call it a U/D :roll:
So if you 1 Putt from there do you call that no putt's :roll:

Hope you bloke can count and don't just right down a score that suits your stats :lol: :lol:

Blakey,

What if the pin is on the right. You connected a pure shot straight at the flag, started low and rising..... and then..... the wind got it and ended way left (still on the green)...

What do you do then? GIR or NOT GIR? :D

[markTHEblake]

What if the pin is on the right. You connected a pure shot straight at the flag, started low and rising..... and then..... the wind got it and ended way left (still on the green)...

What do you do then? GIR or NOT GIR? :D

that means i hit it waaaaay left and its a crap shot.

[jimandr]

This thread has moved in some interesting directions since my last visit.

Following a very humbling experience while I was on holiday last week, I have another statistical question to ask, regarding greens in regulation.

At the Camden Haven course (the one you can see from the highway at Kew, in NSW) the fairways have no run at all. i'm not a long hitter anyway, so as a consequence, after nailing my drive and nailing my 3 wood, I was still short on their uphill 390m par 4. I couldn't have hit that green with a cannon. Do I count it as a missed green?

I can think of a few other examples, particularly playing into the teeth of strong winds, where a GIR was impossible (remember 8 at Shellharbour Spiersy?).

I'm inclined to simply discount such things when adding up the GIR stats, so on that day my GIR would have been 3 of 17 if I was counting. What does the expert panel think :?:

I believe that if you hit the drive where you are trying to hit it, that counts as a fairway. There are lots of places where the best line isn't necessarily the fairway you are supposed to be on.

[AndyP]

I'm inclined to simply discount such things when adding up the GIR stats, so on that day my GIR would have been 3 of 17 if I was counting. What does the expert panel think :?:
That one has got me stumped.
I always have that stat out of 18 greens, and don't think I have come across the impossible green.

[markTHEblake]

At the Camden Haven course (the one you can see from the highway at Kew, in NSW)

I have played that course a couple of times- thats somewhere around Port McQuarie right? Enjoyable course
I remember having fun trying to drive the par 4 18th, landed in the greenside trap on the fly first time, then barely made it off the tee the 2nd time around :-(.


I was still short on their uphill 390m par 4.
out of curiosity which hole was that? I can only remember about half a dozen holes.



I couldn't have hit that green with a cannon. Do I count it as a missed green?

Same problem when you chop one into the trees and have to chip out. The golfer really wants to know how accurate he is with his irons rather than a "GIR" stat.

One of the stats programs that i once used also recorded your approach shots and which particular clubs you used. It didnt matter whether your approach shot was the 2nd on a par 4 or the 5th stroke.

An approach shot is defined as the shot that the golfer intends on reaching the green, and as you can see, it is a much more meaningfull stat to any golfer than just looking at the GIR.

[Speirsy11]

[quote="jimandr"]

I can think of a few other examples, particularly playing into the teeth of strong winds, where a GIR was impossible (remember 8 at Shellharbour Spiersy?).
quote]

I remember....but a missed green is a missed green in my book.....aparently, it's a different book then what most of you go by :lol: , but hey, thats whats great about golf....do what you like, it's no skin off my nose..... :lol:

Speirsy11

[McMw]

that's why they have the option for you to make notes and to select weather condition... :wink:

[jimandr]

Clearly all you gorillas hit it a lot further than me, if you haven't much experience of greens being out of reach. In the new modern world of courses designed for pro's, I really battle under the best of circumstances to reach a 430 metre Par 4 in two. Into the wind, I'm no chance.

I would've been wasting my time trying to hit the 455m par 4 first during the Open at the Australian.

I have described my round at Camden Haven (which isn't too far from Port Macquarie) in the 'what did you shoot' section. The culprit hole was the 5th, 388m uphill, water in front of the tee. I was only 15m short, but my point is that a missed GIR shows a mistake somewhere. On this hole I didn't hit any ordinary shots.

[Ona]

the mistake was that you weren't long enough :roll:

[Trung]

We can't expect to hit 18 GIRs everyday... (I'm averaging just over 8 )

If a hole is 388m straight up hill and can't be reached in 2, then surely there is another hole straight down hill for you to hit a GIR. :wink:

What goes up gotta come down. All the holes will even itself out...

[markTHEblake]

I was only 15m short, but my point is that a missed GIR shows a mistake somewhere. On this hole I didn't hit any ordinary shots.

not really. I dunno what your handicap is but if someone was playing off 14, then the average GIR is only going to be around 5 per round. Chances are the average golfer is going to come across a couple of holes per round that they cannot reach in regulation.

[Ona]

what would you do in this situation. your next to the green in two (par 4) scull the chip thru the green, then sink the putt.

in your mind, should this hypothetical person (:roll:) put that down as an Up, an U/D or neither

[Onewood]

what would you do in this situation. your next to the green in two (par 4) scull the chip thru the green, then sink the putt.

in your mind, should this hypothetical person (:roll:) put that down as an Up, an U/D or neither

What did this hypothetical person give himself :D

I would say U/D 0 putts :smt102

[Trung]

I will take it as an up & down..

Objective when next to the green
Get it up and in the hole

You have done it.. So take it :P ...

Surely there are many other times you felt like you got ripped off by the course. :wink:

[markTHEblake]

in your mind, should this hypothetical person (:roll:) put that down as an Up, an U/D or neither

that would register in my stats program as a;
- a major mistake, (missed green from <50m)
- a successfull up and down
- but 2 up and down attempts on the hole.

[jimandr]

Boy, did today's game raise some situations that cause big questions to be asked regarding our keeping of stats.

Firstly, I've found a way to keep the putts per round average way down :!: :!: It's easy, just incur a penalty (or three) that means you pick up your ball before you reach the green. Actually, what you do is incur the type of penalty that means a long walk back to the location of your previous shot. I did it twice today, and declined the long walk back, thus recording a wipe.

The slightly serious question does arise though. How do you treat the putts you didn't have :?: Do we assume a two putt green :?: , ignore it and pretend you had 28 putts instead of 32 or so :?: , or adjust the average somehow to reflect the missing putts :?:

One of my penalties was for hitting the wrong ball. Now I actually hit the green in regulation with this wrong ball. I didn't count it as a GIR, but should I have done :?: (for full details of this embarrassing indiscretion, see the thread about "Sydney week of 21 Feb" in the 1st Tee section).

I'm recording the penalties as a total of 5, as the wipe for the wrong ball was on a hole I receive a shot, and I'm assuming I would've hit the correct ball onto the green if I had walked back down the hill and played it again, then two putted for a point.

Perhaps this experience is an example why golfing stats aren't particularly valuable to me. I can't recall the last time I incurred 4 (or 5) penalties in a round, and it may be a long time before I do so again.

[Speirsy11]

Ok, I ain't been 'round much, so here we go.......

Handicap: 0.63
Avg. 18 Hole: 75.13
Low 18 Hole: 67
High 18 Hole: 83

% Fairways/Round: 61.78%
GIRs/Round: 10.63
% GIRs/Round: 59.08%
Up & Down %: 41.13%
Sand Save %: 69.77%
Penalties/Round: 0.75

Putts/Round: 31.24
Putts/Hole: 1.74
Par 3 Score: 3.43
Par 4 Score: 4.25
Par 5 Score: 4.75

% of Eagles: 0.81%
% of Birdies: 13.41%
% of Pars: 58.13%
% of Bogeys: 22.22%
% of Doubles: 4.88%
% of Others: 0.54%

Too many penalty strokes, too many putts per round........Pretty good from the sand, and I hit it pretty straight for a longish hitter :oops:

Speirsy11

Alright, time to update after the Gold Coast swing......

Handicap: 0.74
Avg. 18 Hole: 74.97
Low 18 Hole: 67
High 18 Hole: 83

% Fairways/Round: 60.5%
GIRs/Round: 10.82
% GIRs/Round: 60.12%
Up & Down %: 40.59%
Sand Save %: 71.11%
Penalties/Round: 0.82

Putts/Round: 31.4
Putts/Hole: 1.74
Par 3 Score: 3.43
Par 4 Score: 4.25
Par 5 Score: 4.71

% of Eagles: 0.99%
% of Birdies: 13.58%
% of Pars: 57.78%
% of Bogeys: 22.47%
% of Doubles: 4.69%
% of Others: 0.49%

Thought I played ok up there, but just about every stat got worse......I blame the grain in the greens for some of that, I grew up on bent grass, and really struggle to make anything on the grainy Bermuda greens (I hit 14 greens but had 36 putts at Gold Coast (75) and The Glades (74)).....AND 5 penalty strokes en route to 72 at Keza's place didn;'t help either.......

Speirsy11

[Trung]

*updated*

[amanda]

I've finally got around to archiving my old results and here are the games from this year that I could count - we've had a few team events lately so I haven't had an individual score and a few rounds where I completely forgot to record anything. So this only includes 2 games so far:

Scoring Summary
Handicap: 24.96
Avg. 18 Hole: 102.5
Low 18 Hole: 99
High 18 Hole: 106
Avg. 9 Hole: 0
Low 9 Hole: 0
High 9 Hole: 0


Skill Categories
% Fairways/Round: 61.54%
GIRs/Round: 2
% GIRs/Round: 11.11%
Up & Down %: 37.5%
Sand Save %: 0%
Penalties/Round: 1

Scoring Averages
Putts/Round: 36
Putts/Hole: 2
Par 3 Score: 3.8
Par 4 Score: 5.71
Par 5 Score: 7.25

Scoring Breakdown
% of Eagles: 0%
% of Birdies: 2.78%
% of Pars: 13.89%
% of Bogeys: 25%
% of Doubles: 44.44%
% of Others: 13.89%

Obviously I'd love to improve GIRs but it's not handicapped so it's not really useful at this stage. I really need to improve my putting down to 33 - just need to learn how to chip it closer!

[jimandr]

Amanda,

It's clear to me your greatest weakness is your low percentage of eagles. Lift your game :lol:

I've had one eagle in the last 10 years, so I'm not even bothering to record them.

[jimandr]

After the trouble I've caused in this thread through asking difficult questions, it's only fair that I actually show that I have taken it all seriously, and actually post some stats.

In many ways 5 rounds isn't enough to show anything, and the figures certainly don't show anything I didn't already know. Unfortunately, the figures are also skewed by one bad round. I haven't had a really good round to compensate. Maybe next week.

Average score: 82.60
Low: 78
High: 90

Fairways: 8.8 of 14 per round (rising)
GIR: 7.89 of 18 per round (steady)
Up and Down: 16 of 40 (40%)
Putts: 33.6 per round
Putts per GIR: 2.15 (+6, if zero = 2)
Sand Saves: 3 of 5 (60%)
Penalties per round: 1.6 (5 in one round boosts this by a lot).


Now that I've got the knack of this, I'll open a Golftrack account, which should give accurate percentages, and more detailed data.

[Speirsy11]

I just noticed that we have several high profile members without any scores posted in Gametrack, yet they are members.....Jono I'm talking to you.......

Lets see what you've got guys......

Speirsy

[goughy]

I've been trying to work out why I don't have any games listed in gametrack. Then it hit me. You've actually gotta play some games of golf to record the results and stats. :(

[BrisVegas]

Hi all,
I've tried tracking my U&D and SS stats in this thing lately... Before I get too much further, would someone please clarify what should count as an U&D?

1. Is it when you miss a green with your regulation approach, but manage to save par with a chip and one-putt?

2. Is it when you miss a green with ANY approach, but manage to chip and one-putt? (Even if it's for bogey etc?)

3. Is it when you hit your drive sideways, chip out, then stiff your 3rd shot to save par? (or similar with your 4th shot on a par 5?)

4. Is it when you hit your drive sideways, take 5 shots to recover, then stiff your 7th shot to make an 8? (or similar with your 8th shot on a par 5?)

My guess is that only scenario 1 counts as an U&D. That's what I've been tracking so far. Should I be tracking scenario 2 as well? 3 & 4 above don't seem to me to be in the "spirit" of what an U&D is, so I assume that making and "Up & Down" implies that your close by to the green, ie. a measure of greenside chipping and scrambling.

Everything above applies to Sand Saves too, I guess, except that the greenside recovery is done from a bunker.....?

Thanks gurus. :wink:

[Onewood]

Vegas, I limit my U/D to anything inside 20mts. This gives me an idea of my chipping.

It depends on what you want out of the records...and what area you need to improve on....the shot from that duffed second shot is not the true indication of an U/D stat

Good luck with it 8)

[AndyP]

Hi all,
I've tried tracking my U&D and SS stats in this thing lately... Before I get too much further, would someone please clarify what should count as an U&D?
Vegas, the short answer is, whatever you want.

I use scenario 2 and only count it within 20-30m, or where I think it is a realistic up & down opportunity.

[markTHEblake]

would someone please clarify what should count as an U&D?

the previous application i used went with 1. the one i use now goes with 2.

I filled out my last round using the shot by shot method, where I enter each club, where it went etc etc., and it automatically collates the scores, putss, GIRs etc ( i rarely use it this way) and it was interesting to see how it interprets the data.

- if i had 3 chips on one hole it registered it as 3 up and down attempts.
- a putt from off the green was not counted as an up and down attempt (hmm maybe i should have recorded it as a chip with a putter)
- it counts a shot from a greenside bunker as an up and down attempt as well as the seperate stat for sand saves.

[Ona]

what they said.

Ive been using 1 and limit to around 30m but will proly move to 2 soon as im thinking of restarting my stats.

[Trung]

*updated*

[AndyP]

Are you at least going to comment on your stats, Trung:?:

[Trung]

Are you at least going to comment on your stats, Trung:?:

Sorry Boss, do I have to do that to? :roll:

Jarro never ever ask me :wink:

[Jarro]

Trung,

comment on your stats please :wink:

[Speirsy11]

Ok, update after 3 weeks of BAD golf........

USGA Handicap: 1.29
AGU Handicap: 4.2
Avg. 18 Hole: 75.47
Low 18 Hole: 67
High 18 Hole: 87

Putts/Round: 31.55
Putts/Hole: 1.75
Par 3 Score: 3.44
Par 4 Score: 4.28
Par 5 Score: 4.79

% Fairways/Round: 59.62%
GIRs/Round: 10.57
% GIRs/Round: 58.71%
Up & Down %: 38.72%
Sand Save %: 66.67%
Penalties/Round: 0.82

% of Eagles: 0.87%
% of Birdies: 13.18%
% of Pars: 56.1%
% of Bogeys: 24.07%
% of Doubles: 5.12%
% of Others: 0.65%

[Grunt]

So Rob are you of 5,4 or 1? Please dont tell me you just blew yourself out to 5 so as not to give me 2 shots on one hole.

After The Vintage I blew out to 23.5 so now 24.

[Speirsy11]

So Rob are you of 5,4 or 1? Please dont tell me you just blew yourself out to 5 so as not to give me 2 shots on one hole.

After The Vintage I blew out to 23.5 so now 24.

I'm a 1 on a USGA Hcp which is very different then a AGU Hcp. The USGA takes your 10 best scores of your last 20 rounds, while the AGU takes your true scoring average to calculate your Hcp. On average, a AGU hcp is about 4 shots higher then a USGA.......

After the Vintage, my Hcp dropped cause the course rating is high and my score wasn't, hence back down to 4 (albeit barely.....it was 4.5, but my last couple of rounds have dropped me back to 4.2, which still sucks.....)

So, no, I was a 5.......

[McMw]

After 42 18Holers....and countless 9holers (which don't affect the stats on GT I think)...here goes... :)

I've seen the par3/4/5 average come down below the dreaded .40 mark....and the par5s below 0.3...so that's a plus... :D

One noticable thing....since starting GT...haven't broken 70yet... :(


Scoring Summary
Handicap: 3.55
Avg. 18 Hole: 76.52
Low 18 Hole: 70
High 18 Hole: 85
Avg. 9 Hole: 38.34
Low 9 Hole: 33
High 9 Hole: 43

Scoring Averages
Putts/Round: 29.9
Putts/Hole: 1.66
Par 3 Score: 3.35
Par 4 Score: 4.39
Par 5 Score: 5.25

Skill Categories
% Fairways/Round: 51.13%
GIRs/Round: 7.97
% GIRs/Round: 44.29%
Up & Down %: 0%
Sand Save %: 0%
Penalties/Round: 1.76

Scoring Breakdown
% of Eagles: 0%
% of Birdies: 10.27%
% of Pars: 53.18%
% of Bogeys: 28.89%
% of Doubles: 5.67%
% of Others: 1.99%

[Jarro]

GT Handicap = 9.79
# 18-Hole Rds: 18
Avg Score: 83
Low Round: 74
High Round: 89


Scoring Averages
Par 3 Avg: 3.67
Par 4 Avg: 4.69
Par 5 Avg: 5.65
Avg Putts/Rd: 31.56
Avg Putts/Hole: 1.75
Avg Putts/GIR: 2
Avg Greens/Rd: 5.94

Skill Categories
% Fairways/Rd: 42.6%
% Greens/Rd: 33%
% Up/Downs: 41.5%
% Sand Saves: 5%
Penalties/Rd: 1.5

[Speirsy11]

Looking through these stats, I've noticed we all suck on Par 3's and take WAY too many penalties........

Interesting that we all seem to struggle at the same things, just to different degrees......

Nice putting stats McMW......Maybe if I hit it and you roll it we might be half decent.......

Speirsy11

[McMw]

it prob helps that the greens here are smallish...so tat's prob why my GIR% sucks too!!! :lol:

[AndyP]

it prob helps that the greens here are smallish...so tat's prob why my GIR% sucks too!!! :lol:
Yep, I'll go along with that excuse. Nambours greens are small too.

[McMw]

that's weird...

on the 5th this arvo....I hit 5 wood off the tee...ball landed in the bunker, came out, greenside...(so fairway hit)...

I chipped in for a deuce...so score is a 2...but yet, GT doesn't count it as a GIR... :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

what the heck is that???

[jimandr]

I have racked up my 10 games on GameTrack, and I still believe keeping stats is of little value to me.

Nevertheless, let the record show the following:

Summary

GameTrack Handicap = 6.89
Average 18 hole score = 81.8
Low 18 hole score = 78
High 18 hole score = 86

Scoring

Putts = 33.3
Putts per hole = 1.85
Par 3 = 3.64
Par 4 = 4.56
par 5 = 5.50

Eagles = 0
Birdies = 3.33%
Pars = 48.33%
Bogeys = 36.67%
Doubles = 11.67%

Skill

Fairways = 53.68%
GIR = 7.4 , 41.1%
Up & Down = 41.1%
Sand Saves = 47.62%
Penalties per round = 0.9

This entire statistical period has coincided with a major slump in my game. I'm not playing well, and I don't really need a statistical report to tell me I'm not hitting enough fairways, and as a consequence, not enough greens either. Both figures are below what I would expect my average to be. Perhaps it is also connected that because i've had more u&d chances, my conversion rate is pretty good.

If I ever get back to playing 'normal' golf again, it may be interesting to compare some of these figures.

[Trung]

*updated*

[Ona]

June 3, 2005 - #18 Hole Rds: 16 (11)

Scoring Averages
Par 3 Avg: 3.27 (3.24)
Par 4 Avg: 4.4 (4.45)
Par 5 Avg: 4.86 (4.68 )
Avg Putts/Rd: 31.56 (31.45)
Avg Putts/Hole: 1.75 (1.75)
Avg Putts/GIR: 1.9 (1.9)
Avg Greens/Rd: 9.25 (9.18 )

Skill Categories
% Fairways/Rd: 54.3% (50.4)
% Greens/Rd: 51.4% (51)
% Up/Downs: 42.5% (40.7)
% Sand Saves: 9.1% (12.5)
Penalties/Rd: 0.57 (.89)



Mar 10, 2005 - given the course, I should be hitting a very high % of fairways and at least 12 GIR. looking to see the U/D % to climb steadily, touch wood.

this time I'm keeping my mouth shut :(

[AndyP]

Time for a check of my stats after half the year has passed (no more rounds before July 1).


I archived some of the older rounds, and have reset the stats from the start of 2005, as a few of you have done.

Stats Overview
Gametrack H/C: 12.16
# 18-Hole Rds: 7
Avg Score: 86.43
Low Round: 79 Would love to see this get much lower
High Round: 94

Scoring Averages
Par 3 Avg: 3.84
Par 4 Avg: 5.01 Would like to see this come down under bogey avg
Par 5 Avg: 5.57
Avg Putts/Rd: 34 Depending on what courses I play, I would expect this to come down a little
Avg Putts/Hole: 1.88
Avg Putts/GIR: 2.2 Would be more of a reflection on where my approaches land, not my putting
Avg Greens/Rd: 6

Skill Categories
% Fairways/Rd: 39.8%
% Greens/Rd: 33.3%
% Up/Downs: 36.2%
% Sand Saves: 22.2% This stat is a bit flattering
Penalties/Rd: 2.12 Changed to McMw's method to reflect how much I have actually been penalised on a hole

Stats Overview
Gametrack Handicap: 12.56
# 18-Hole Rds: 23
Avg Score: 86.96 Doesn't mean that much when I've played on courses from par 66 to 73
Low Round: 74 (Nambour Monthly Honours :D)
High Round: 95 (Bribie Island Matchplay :roll:)

Scoring Averages
Par 3 Avg: 3.73 Improved, probably as a result of hitting my irons better
Par 4 Avg: 5 Did just get under 5, a couple of weeks ago. It's the blowouts that hurt the average
Par 5 Avg: 5.82
Avg Putts/Rd: 33.21 I expect this to keep coming down too
Avg Putts/Hole: 1.84
Avg Putts/GIR: 2.1
Avg Greens/Rd: 5.83

Skill Categories
% Fairways/Rd: 56.4% Oh yeah, happy with this one :D
% Greens/Rd: 32.4% Definitely can get better
% Up/Downs: 39.3% Can also get better, but is getting there
% Sand Saves: 13.5%
Penalties/Rd: 2.08

Not sure what to get out of these stats, as it is only comparing it to 7 rounds at the start of the year. They say I haven't really improved, but I know I am hitting it better.
Might be more useful if I could find some stats from last year.

BTW I got my quote from this thread: http://ozgolf.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=860, but this seems to be the more current of our stats threads. :roll:

[Speirsy11]

Scoring Summary

69 18 hole rounds

Avg. 18 Hole:   75.19
Low 18 Hole:   62
High 18 Hole:   87

Skill Categories
% Fairways/Round:   59.92%
GIRs/Round:   10.58
% GIRs/Round:   58.79%
Up & Down %:   40.1%
Sand Save %:   68%
Penalties/Round:   0.72

Scoring Averages
Putts/Round:   31.23
Putts/Hole:   1.74
Par 3 Score: 3.43
Par 4 Score:   4.26
Par 5 Score:   4.79

Scoring Breakdown
% of Eagles:   0.91%
% of Birdies:   13.54%
% of Pars:   56.36%
% of Bogeys:   23.64%
% of Doubles:   4.95%
% of Others:   0.61%

[Trung]

Jun 05
Scoring Averages
Par 3 Avg: 3.38
Par 4 Avg: 4.5
Par 5 Avg: 5.31
Avg Putts/Rd: 30.16
Avg Putts/Hole: 1.67
Avg Putts/GIR: 1.9
Avg Greens/Rd: 7.82

Skill Categories
% Fairways/Rd: 44.4%
% Greens/Rd: 43.4%
% Up/Downs: 54.6%
% Sand Saves: 26.2%
Penalties/Rd: 0.24

May 05
Scoring Averages
Par 3 Avg: 3.43
Par 4 Avg: 4.53
Par 5 Avg: 5.37
Avg Putts/Rd: 30.19
Avg Putts/Hole: 1.67
Avg Putts/GIR: 1.9
Avg Greens/Rd: 7.46

Skill Categories
% Fairways/Rd: 41.6%
% Greens/Rd: 41.5%
% Up/Downs: 51.8%
% Sand Saves: 26.5%
Penalties/Rd: 0.24

Apr 05
Scoring Averages
Par 3 Avg: 3.41
Par 4 Avg: 4.5
Par 5 Avg: 5.39
Avg Putts/Rd: 30.5
Avg Putts/Hole: 1.69
Avg Putts/GIR: 1.9
Avg Greens/Rd: 7.8

Skill Categories
% Fairways/Rd: 39.3%
% Greens/Rd: 43.3%
% Up/Downs: 47.3%
% Sand Saves: 24.3%
Penalties/Rd: 0.27

Mar 05
Scoring Averages
Par 3 Avg: 3.37
Par 4 Avg: 4.48
Par 5 Avg: 5.38
Avg Putts/Rd: 30.88
Avg Putts/Hole: 1.71
Avg Putts/GIR: 1.9
Avg Greens/Rd: 7.81

Skill Categories
% Fairways/Rd: 39.4%
% Greens/Rd: 43.4%
% Up/Downs: 45.1%
% Sand Saves: 25%
Penalties/Rd: 0.58

Feb 05
Scoring Averages
Par 3 Avg: 3.26
Par 4 Avg: 4.49
Par 5 Avg: 5.35
Avg Putts/Rd: 30.89
Avg Putts/Hole: 1.71
Avg Putts/GIR: 1.9
Avg Greens/Rd: 7.53

Skill Categories
% Fairways/Rd: 39.5%
% Greens/Rd: 41.8%
% Up/Downs: 37.1%
% Sand Saves: 9.1%
Penalties/Rd: 0.33

[jimandr]

Another 10 games have passed since my last report. I've played a couple of good games and one very good one, and the total stats reflect this.

Average Score = 80.24 (down a bit)
Low = 73 (yippee!)
High = 86 (still)

Putts = 33.81 (worse)
Par 3 = 3.56 (better)
Par 4 = 4.53 (steady)
Par 5 = 5.34 (better)

Fairways = 59.82 (better)
GIR = 8.57 (better)
Up & Down = 41.94% (steady)
Sand Saves = 45.24% (slightly worse)
Penalties = 0.95 (steady)

Birdies = 4.76% (better)
Pars = 50.79% (better)
Bogeys = 34.13% (better)
Doubles = 10.32% (better).

[Grunt]

Thought I would bump this thread to see how we are all going just before the Champs.

My Stats:

Scoring Summary
Handicap: 14.63
Avg. 18 Hole: 92.56
Low 18 Hole: 75
High 18 Hole: 108
Avg. 9 Hole: 44
Low 9 Hole: 44
High 9 Hole: 44

Skill Categories
% Fairways/Round: 49.76%
GIRs/Round: 4.42 %
GIRs/Round: 24.54%
Up & Down %: 36.33%
Sand Save %: 20.51%
Penalties/Round: 2.45

Scoring Averages
Putts/Round: 33.91
Putts/Hole: 1.89
Par 3 Score: 3.93
Par 4 Score: 5.25
Par 5 Score: 6


Scoring Breakdown
% of Eagles: 0%
% of Birdies: 2.82%
% of Pars: 28.69%
% of Bogeys: 36.82%
% of Doubles: 21.39%
% of Others: 10.28%

[Speirsy11]

Then (June 2005)


Scoring Summary

69 18 hole rounds

Avg. 18 Hole: 75.19
Low 18 Hole: 62
High 18 Hole: 87

Skill Categories
% Fairways/Round: 59.92%
GIRs/Round: 10.58
% GIRs/Round: 58.79%
Up & Down %: 40.1%
Sand Save %: 68%
Penalties/Round: 0.72

Scoring Averages
Putts/Round: 31.23
Putts/Hole: 1.74
Par 3 Score: 3.43
Par 4 Score: 4.26
Par 5 Score: 4.79

Scoring Breakdown
% of Eagles: 0.91%
% of Birdies: 13.54%
% of Pars: 56.36%
% of Bogeys: 23.64%
% of Doubles: 4.95%
% of Others: 0.61%

Now (All 2006 stats)

Scoring Summary

Avg. 18 Hole: 75.9 (steady)
Low 18 Hole: 67 (higher but lower relative to par)
High 18 Hole: 85 (better)

Skill Categories
% Fairways/Round: 62.38% (Much better)
GIRs/Round: 10.26 (steady)
% GIRs/Round: 57.02% (steady, obviously)
Up & Down %: 42.66% (better)
Sand Save %: 59.65% (Down a bunch, but I blame the absolute crap bunkers at my home course)
Penalties/Round: 1.18 (WAY worse, this is pathetic)

Scoring Averages
Putts/Round: 31.13 (steady)
Putts/Hole: 1.73
Par 3 Score: 3.23 (better slightly)
Par 4 Score: 4.35 (steady)
Par 5 Score: 4.94 (steady)


Scoring Breakdown
% of Eagles: 1.17% (better)
% of Birdies: 12.72% (steady)
% of Pars: 54.53% (worse)
% of Bogeys: 26.32% (worse)
% of Doubles: 4.24% (better)
% of Others: 1.02% (worse)


I make more eagles, but I make more big numbers too.......Likely due to the fact I'm playing more tournaments lately on tougher courses.....I feel like I'm playing much better of late too........We'll see what it's like next year.....

Speirsy

[AndyP]

Stats Overview
Gametrack Handicap: 11.58 Come down from a few good rounds
# 18-Hole Rds: 18
Avg Score: 88.17
Low Round: 78
High Round: 109 Beautiful

Scoring Averages
Par 3 Avg: 3.95
Par 4 Avg: 4.99
Par 5 Avg: 5.65 All three below bogey average. I like that.
Avg Putts/Rd: 32.33 Continually dropping
Avg Putts/Hole: 1.8
Avg Putts/GIR: 2 Finally got away from it being 2.1 (it's probably 2.04999
Avg Greens/Rd: 4.51

Skill Categories
% Fairways/Rd: 52.6% Not too bad (effective remember)
% Greens/Rd: 25.1% Getting worse
% Up/Downs: 42.4% Slowly gettting better
% Sand Saves: 14.6% The occasional fluke
Penalties/Rd: 1.11 Dropped a fair bit.

I'm sure there's another thread with more updated stuff. Or maybe not.

[Moe Norman]

i keep these stats myself on a spreadhseet at home - does it cost money to do it where all you blokes do?

[AndyP]

Not unless you want the premium stuff.

www.freegolfinfo.com (http://www.freegolfinfo.com)

[Moe Norman]

i prefer my system - its simpler!

Fairways Hit: 42.89% (surprising, I'd have guessed less than 30)
GIR: 60.15%
Up & Down: 26.26%
Sand Saves: 33.33%
Ave Putts: 38.28
Scoring Ave: 83.21
Scoring Average vs Par: 11.38

I think its clear I need to work on my shortgame, and that perhaps 10 would be a more suitable handicap than 7.

[Courty]

Here are some stats from the spreadsheet I've been populating since late last year:

Total rounds: 13.5

Average gross score: 82.9
Average nett score: 75

Stroke average (gross): 4.6
Par 3 average: 3.59
Par 4 average: 4.67
Par 5 average: 5.48

Stroke average (nett): 4.2
Par 3 average: 3.2
Par 4 average: 4.1
Par 5 average: 5.4

Average fairways hit: 6.89 (49.47%)
Missed left: 24.47%
Missed right: 26.06%

Average greens hit: 6.59 (36.78%)
Missed short: 35.95%
Missed left: 9.50%
Missed right: 12.40%
Missed long: 5.37%

Average putts: 31.70
Average putts per hole: 1.77
Average putts per GIR: 2.01

Up & downs: 37.72%
Green missed: 10.95%
Green hit, >2m from hole: 60.58%
Green hit, <2m from hole: 34.31%

[AndyP]

Where are you missing the other 0.32% of fairways? Topped short?

Are you using the stats to improve areas?

[haysey]

Here are some stats from the spreadsheet I've been populating since late last year:





Where's the s*anks per round stat?




:twisted:

[Courty]

Where are you missing the other 0.32% of fairways? Topped short?

FFS. Typo corrected. :roll:


Are you using the stats to improve areas?

I will be, I just wanted to collect enough data for it to be meaningful first.


Where's the s*anks per round stat?

:twisted:

FFS. :smt013

[PeteyD]

What about # of Ponds?

[Ned]

According to Golflink in the last two years I have ............

played 77 rounds of Stableford:


Average Par 71
Avergae ACR 69
Average CCR 70
Avergae points result 33
Average H'Cap played off 12
Average H'Cap played to 16
Lowest points score result 25
Highest points score result 41


played 97 single stroke rounds:

Average Par 71
Average ACR 69
Average CCR 70
Average Gross 85
Avergae Nett 73
Average H'Cap played off 12
Average H'Cap played to 15
Lowest Gross Score 75
Lowest Nett Score 62
Highest Gross Score 106
Highest Nett Score 94

[Rusty]

Where are you missing the other 0.32% of fairways? Topped short?

you've missed your calling - audit should be somewhere in your job description :D

[Scottt]

How do these compare to those others of you in the <10 or so handicap region?

These are for my last 20 rounds.

Fairways hit: 53%
GIR: 40%
Putting ave: 1.85 (33.3 ppr)

Par 3 ave: 3.61
Par 4 ave: 4.71
Par 5 ave: 5.49

Scoring average: 81.20

Birdie - 6%
Par - 40%
Bogey - 39%
Double - 11%
Other - 2%

[Eag's]

Thought I would put up some stats to see why my game has improved sharply over the last month or so. I have gone back to using Gametrack due to the fact my Tap-In golf stats program has crapped itself.
Stats based on my last 7 rounds.


Scoring Summary
Hcp: 7.68
Avg. 18 Hole: 80.86
Low 18 Hole: 78
High 18 Hole: 85

Skill Categories
% Fairways/Round: 60.42%
GIRs/Round: 7.43
% GIRs/Round: 41.27%
Up & Down %: 42%
Sand Save %: 40%
Penalties/Round: 0.43%

Scoring Averages
Putts/Round: 32.29
Putts/Hole: 1.79
Par 3 Score: 3.4
Par 4 Score: 4.68
Par 5 Score: 5.38

Scoring Breakdown
% of Eagles: 0%
% of Birdies: 5.56%
% of Pars: 44.44%
% of Bogeys: 39.68%
% of Doubles: 8.73%
% of Others: 1.59%

[henno]

That's a pretty decent UnD stat in my view, Eag's. To get in for par almost one out of two times you miss the green is a good stat for a 10 marker.

[Eag's]

Yeah mate Quite happy with that stat :)
I am also hitting a lot more fairways than I was six months ago so giving myself more chances to shoot at greens. I just have to get my putting average down a bit.

[Bruce]

Does anyone still have the golflink mates style stats sheet PDF?
I can't remember where I put it and it was a fairly user friendly thing when printed out.

[Grunt]

Will have a look Bruce I remember throwing out some copies in the garage clean out only last week.