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3oneday
27th July 2009, 02:13 PM
OK, I'm a bit over all the ho'ing. As the boys saw yesty, I had the toppies in, with this stuff as well:

Burner TP 9.5° 50 gram X
18° Bridgey hybrid
21° Synchron hybrid
Nana & Pop Scotty.

I had a 54° and 60° TP Black wedges but I have the 51 and 57° Vokey Nomads coming. The plan with those would be to carry them and the 60° TP.

So, I have room for 7 irons. 4 to Wedge, about a 46 or 47° wedge.

These are my choices.....

1) AP2 4 to Wedge being sold on here (not a huge fan of forged though)
2) R7 TP - should be arriving via UPS (the wankers) today - edit, just got the "box here" sms from the wife 8)
3) Tour Preferred - have a set listed on ebayjust sold on ebay
4) MP32/MP60 combos - will arrive sometime this week. Great clubs, probably too small a head in the 4 and 5 iron even with MP60's.
5) Toppies

So, once i get whatever with the right lie angle, the aim is to just stop. Not stop golfing, stop ho'ing !

BBM Rick
27th July 2009, 02:18 PM
Yeah, right! Pfffft!!
I vote the Tour Preffered. On paper it makes sense, somewhat traditional blade look at address, with the benefit of perimiter weighting. Second choice would be the Mizzy's, even though its not as practical.
Just go with what you know, ho!

Captain Nemo
27th July 2009, 02:18 PM
Id go the r7 tp's!

Tomson
27th July 2009, 02:20 PM
I think we should start a "Save The Toppies" foundation.

3oneday
27th July 2009, 02:25 PM
I think we should start a "Save The Toppies" foundation.

Well, I shot 7 over yesty missing 6 greens inside 100. Not the toppies fault, maybe I should keep them !

Tomson
27th July 2009, 02:27 PM
Keep the Toppies and get KBS and the lie lofts fixed...

I am making a stand on my hoing days and saying "no more"

sms316
27th July 2009, 02:30 PM
Worst Thread Ever. Daylight second.

BrisVegas
27th July 2009, 02:31 PM
there are a million different irons that would be fine. hell, i dont even mind the look of the Nike Split Cavs or the TMTPs. If you can get past the garnishing they all seem to do on the back cav and/or pocket, heaps of irons are quite reasonable.

Or, get some Ping i10 irons and never worry about your irons ever again.

Sydney Hacker
27th July 2009, 02:31 PM
Which option will you unload in here cheapest in a month ?

3oneday
27th July 2009, 02:34 PM
Which option will you unload in here cheapest in a month ?
Well, there's cheap and there's unsellable ;)

Sydney Hacker
27th July 2009, 02:36 PM
Well, there's cheap and there's unsellable ;)

Yes well take the toppies out of the picture and then work out what set will be cheapest for someone else to grab in a month :D

BBM Rick
27th July 2009, 02:40 PM
Yes well take the toppies out of the picture and then work out what set will be cheapest for someone else to grab in a month :D


Good call. I bags the Mizzies! :razz:

haysey
27th July 2009, 02:55 PM
I am making a stand on my hoing days and saying "no more"



the aim is to just stop. Not stop golfing, stop ho'ing !


You guys are funny.....no really. Like this is ever going to happen:roll:

Tomson
27th July 2009, 03:15 PM
Do you have a set of AP2 for sale and didn't tell me about it..

I am hurt 3

3oneday
27th July 2009, 03:26 PM
Do you have a set of AP2 for sale and didn't tell me about it..

I am hurt 3
no mate, I'd never do that to you ;) Adriezznn or something or others I was contemplating, although there is a set with PX 5.0 just listed on ebay too ;) He had $635 BIN but someone bid at $545 and blew that away !

3oneday
27th July 2009, 03:51 PM
Keep the Toppies and get KBS and the lie lofts fixed...


I once had a set of toppies with Tour Concepts in them you know 8)

Are the KBS only tapered ? What sort of dollars ? I am warming to the idea of keeping the toppies. Maybe having shaft bling will stop folks from being embarrassed by me :lol:

BBM Rick
27th July 2009, 03:58 PM
I doubt it.

goonie
27th July 2009, 04:10 PM
Get taper shafts and shim them, that way they are constant weight and you can fit them to any heads down the track. I have some DGSL's in .370 and I am limited to what I can fit them in.

henno
27th July 2009, 04:19 PM
Get some S58s. In fact, get two sets as I want one as well. :-)

Cheap-ish, cast, yummy.

3oneday
27th July 2009, 04:21 PM
Nup, list only.

henno
27th July 2009, 04:23 PM
32/60 combos are my vote then.

moree golfer
27th July 2009, 04:23 PM
"Get taper shafts and shim them, that way they are constant weight and you can fit them to any heads down the track."

Ask Virge and he will say no to shimming iron shafts. One has a taper ie get thinner towards the tip, and one is parallel ie. constant diameter of .370. You don't get enough contact with the epoxy to hold it.

virge666
27th July 2009, 04:23 PM
Ping I10's in something softish - but not light.

They never wear and are the bedizzle.

moree golfer
27th July 2009, 04:28 PM
Get some S58s. In fact, get two sets as I want one as well. :-)

Cheap-ish, cast, yummy.
Hey Henno http://cgi.ebay.com.au/PING-S58-IRONS-3-TO-PW_W0QQitemZ150360592780QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Spor t_Golf_Equipment?hash=item230230918c&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294 %3A50

henno
27th July 2009, 04:30 PM
Hey Henno http://cgi.ebay.com.au/PING-S58-IRONS-3-TO-PW_W0QQitemZ150360592780QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Spor t_Golf_Equipment?hash=item230230918c&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294 %3A50

Another 100 clams would have Jono's i10s, however. =P~

moree golfer
27th July 2009, 04:47 PM
I voted for keeping the Toppies but that is because I like old school irons such as MP14s, T-Zoid Pro II etc.

goonie
27th July 2009, 05:19 PM
"Get taper shafts and shim them, that way they are constant weight and you can fit them to any heads down the track."

Ask Virge and he will say no to shimming iron shafts. One has a taper ie get thinner towards the tip, and one is parallel ie. constant diameter of .370. You don't get enough contact with the epoxy to hold it.

BS, There is no issue shimming irons or woods if you know what your doing, and with irons it's handy when your an uber ho like 3OD who changes clubs all the time :-)

goonie
27th July 2009, 05:23 PM
The Tour Preffered's have less offset than the R7TP'sif that is an issue.

3oneday
27th July 2009, 05:51 PM
Yeah, I was trying to find the specs on the R7 Tp's to compare but couldn't. Thanks for that ;)

Hux
27th July 2009, 05:53 PM
Add to your list - how can the ho's work on such a restricted list.
Cobra Pro CB's

3oneday
27th July 2009, 05:59 PM
Is it a larger head and not forged Hux ?

henno
27th July 2009, 06:09 PM
Is it a larger head and not forged Hux ?

So basically this whole poll is now down to whether you get R7TPs or keep the toppies?

Hux
27th July 2009, 06:10 PM
No more forged than the Mizzies and AP2's.
Never done a side by side with others on size but not that much smaller than i10's in width...just haven't got that chunkiness.

Courty
27th July 2009, 06:27 PM
I voted for the Mizuno combo set.

Does anyone have dibs on it yet? ;)

3oneday
27th July 2009, 06:43 PM
So basically this whole poll is now down to whether you get R7TPs or keep the toppies?

you're pretty quick for a queenslander ;)


Hang on......


your pritty quik.....

3oneday
27th July 2009, 06:44 PM
Does anyone have dibs on it yet? ;)
I think you are currently sitting 3rd.

Webster
27th July 2009, 06:46 PM
PING Eye2+

3oneday
27th July 2009, 06:47 PM
Ask Virge and he will say no to shimming iron shafts. One has a taper ie get thinner towards the tip, and one is parallel ie. constant diameter of .370. You don't get enough contact with the epoxy to hold it.
no matter how you look at this, shims are fine sorry.

virge666
27th July 2009, 06:56 PM
R7 TP's are shite . . . FFS get a set that at least have some forgiveness and feedback.

Go for the MP60 or AP2 - way better club.

And I don't shim tapers into parallel heads. Too many ways for it to jam in crooked. I have been known to drill out a 355 head though.

:)

3oneday
27th July 2009, 07:00 PM
Not much (else) excites me in my list to be honest. R7 TP's are already on ebay ;)

henno
27th July 2009, 07:00 PM
R7 TP's are shite . . .


I spit on R7TP's ... then I take a dump on them.

:-"

Sydney Hacker
27th July 2009, 07:10 PM
I have some callaway X-14's sitting in my office that might suit you...

3oneday
27th July 2009, 07:14 PM
I've actually owned a set of those.

Thanks for your offer, I have Toppies ;)

BrisVegas
27th July 2009, 07:18 PM
hold out for some AP3s.

3oneday
27th July 2009, 07:46 PM
I have this aversion to spending $1000 on one set sadly :(

Scottt
27th July 2009, 07:57 PM
R7TPs feel dead and are dead ugly.

If you like cast, have a look at the Ping S58s. I haven't even looked at another set of irons since buying them two or three months back - and that's saying a lot!!

The ZZ65 is a beautiful shaft, too.

PeteyD
27th July 2009, 08:00 PM
Cobra Pro CBs. There is no substitute.

Hux
27th July 2009, 08:07 PM
Cobra Pro CBs. There is no substitute.


Try finding them used at a decent price in the USA...they either didn't sell well or everyone is holding on to them. A good set went for US$550 they other day. I was thinking maybe @ $350-375 they way their prices run.

Pro MB's are also quite hard to find as well...for the right $ anyway.

PeteyD
27th July 2009, 08:08 PM
No one is selling em cos they is the shizzle.

Moe Norman
27th July 2009, 08:30 PM
TM 300's

Scottt
27th July 2009, 08:34 PM
They're pretty majorly offset aren't they Moe?

Jarro
27th July 2009, 08:48 PM
R7TP's

You had 'em before and kept telling me how well you hit them and how much you liked them.

And they're not butt ugly, Scottt doesn't know what the **** he's talking about !

Scottt
27th July 2009, 08:58 PM
I had a set for 12 months when I returned to the game with half a swing. It was like dating an ugly chick for her good personality that only I knew about.

Pete is a good enough golfer that he doesn't have to subject himself to that!

jaybam
27th July 2009, 09:01 PM
R7TP's

You had 'em before and kept telling me how well you hit them and how much you liked them.

And they're not butt ugly, Scottt doesn't know what the **** he's talking about !

Thats why you owe him 50 bucks :)

Hux
27th July 2009, 09:29 PM
Okay one out of left field for a guy who likes to get in different stuff from the good old US of A.
Cleveland CG7 Tour. Cast - CB but looks like less offset than TMR7TP's....go on 3OB get out there!

virge666
27th July 2009, 09:40 PM
Nice one hux. I like it.

What about RAC TP combo. Or RAC TP2. Damn good clubs and stupidly cheap from the TM forge. Would suit you with some s300.

Agree on the cobra mb too. Get the cast version.

Hux
27th July 2009, 09:43 PM
Betcha all the old Google is getting a search for CG7 Tours now....

3oneday
27th July 2009, 09:45 PM
They the Red ones ?

Seen them, $699USD seems exy.

Hux
27th July 2009, 09:47 PM
What are you going to buy new now??

None came up on fleabay except LH on 3 Balls and they look like the go for peanuts from initial bidding.

goonie
27th July 2009, 09:55 PM
Is it a larger head and not forged Hux ?

They are forged and smaller than TM TP's

goonie
27th July 2009, 10:08 PM
I had a set for 12 months when I returned to the game with half a swing. It was like dating an ugly chick for her good personality that only I knew about.

Pete is a good enough golfer that he doesn't have to subject himself to that!

Your calling R7TP's ugly, and your using one of the ugliest sets of irons on the market. Comparing R7TP's to S58's is like comparing a lambo or aston to a kia or a daewoo.

Scottt
27th July 2009, 10:14 PM
Your calling R7TP's ugly, and your using one of the uglies sets of irons on the market. Comparing R7TP's to S58's is like comparing a lambo or aston to a kia or a daewoo.

Seriously? You think that?

goonie
27th July 2009, 10:56 PM
Seriously? You think that?

They may be good clubs but they ain't pretty, so I wouldn't be bagging R7TP's if I was you.

adlo
27th July 2009, 11:20 PM
Ping irons may perform, they may last forever and hold resale but they ain't pretty Scottt.

3oneday
28th July 2009, 08:10 AM
Search complete. Stand by for arrival ;)

henno
28th July 2009, 08:12 AM
Considering that "search called off" would have meant you decided to keep the toppies, I'm going to have to assume you're going with the R7TPs.

3oneday
28th July 2009, 08:16 AM
No, well yes, I am keeping the toppies, they are worthless to anyone else ;)

I decided to broaden my horizons outside my list, as much as I'm a ho, I'm also becoming a tightarse.

I found a mint set of CG Red, 4 to pitch, for $230USD. I'll spend a few bucks getting some decent grips, get them flattened and away we go 8)

Captain Nemo
28th July 2009, 08:24 AM
My BIL has the CG Golds, previous model, says they go well!

Bailsworth
28th July 2009, 08:44 AM
One of the older guys at my club has the CG Reds, i'm pretty sure he is in his mid to late 60s (still playing off about 4) and he told me that he bought them because as much as he loved his old blades, they were just getting a little tough to hit consistently, He loves the Clevelands now.

Incidentally, whenever i feel guilty for having more clubs than i can technically use at any one given time, i just log on here... you guys make me feel soo much better.

just
28th July 2009, 08:44 AM
I object! They weren't on your poll!

rick3003
28th July 2009, 08:59 AM
No, well yes, I am keeping the toppies, they are worthless to anyone else ;)

I decided to broaden my horizons outside my list, as much as I'm a ho, I'm also becoming a tightarse.

I found a mint set of CG Red, 4 to pitch, for $230USD. I'll spend a few bucks getting some decent grips, get them flattened and away we go 8)
Bet they don't see 2 rounds :)

3oneday
28th July 2009, 09:00 AM
Bet they don't see 2 rounds :)

thanks for that ricktheputterman, you made contact with your bro yet ???

:p

Scottt
28th July 2009, 09:04 AM
Ping irons may perform, they may last forever and hold resale but they ain't pretty Scottt.


They may be good clubs but they ain't pretty, so I wouldn't be bagging R7TP's if I was you.

Wow. I think they are gorgeous!

A mate has a set of MP-32s with all the paintfill removed that I will admit are much sexier than my 58s, but I still love them, and maintain they are prettier than R7TPs!

3oneday
28th July 2009, 09:09 AM
I prefer big tits.

just
28th July 2009, 09:16 AM
Wow. I think they are gorgeous!
I agree Scottt. How anyone thinks r7TPs are any better looking than S58s is beyond me. The S58s are the best looking iron Ping has ever done.

henno
28th July 2009, 09:17 AM
S57s are up there as well. Yummy.

BrisVegas
28th July 2009, 09:22 AM
A friend of mine has MP52s with the paintfill removed and they've been beadblasted/sandblasted to make them a satin finish. They look pretty nice.

3oneday
28th July 2009, 09:27 AM
Wouldn't they rust ?

BrisVegas
28th July 2009, 09:37 AM
yeah probably, but this guy hits balls all day every day which keeps the face pretty clean. I've seen a few pros playing raw/satin irons to reduce glare.

sms316
28th July 2009, 09:39 AM
This equipped yet?

3oneday
28th July 2009, 10:15 AM
This equipped yet?

the cold frozen your ability to read ? Might be a slow thaw ;)

sms316
28th July 2009, 10:24 AM
Figured you will change your mind several times before the end of the day, so the question is valid.

3oneday
28th July 2009, 10:44 AM
True

goonie
28th July 2009, 11:16 AM
Wow. I think they are gorgeous!


I agree Scottt. How anyone thinks r7TPs are any better looking than S58s is beyond me. The S58s are the best looking iron Ping has ever done.

Looks like a few people need there eyes checked :-)

3oneday
28th July 2009, 11:26 AM
I did rate the look of the i10's too though. Each to their own. Don't forget just has had a Ping woody for some time now.

If Ping issued the "i series Penthouse" just would be first in line 8)

BrisVegas
28th July 2009, 11:28 AM
I did rate the look of the i10's too though. Each to their own. Don't forget just has had a Ping woody for some time now.

If Ping issued the "i series Penthouse" just would be first in line 8)

for perspective, just served in the RAN.... ;)

just
28th July 2009, 12:07 PM
I did rate the look of the i10's too though. Each to their own. Don't forget just has had a Ping woody for some time now.

If Ping issued the "i series Penthouse" just would be first in line 8)


for perspective, just served in the RAN.... ;)

You betcha! I would be first in line.

virge666
28th July 2009, 12:40 PM
I really wouldn't call the S58 "pretty" I own and love my set . . . but they are not a looker.

I am working on Russ's CG Tours and they look the goods. MP67 look the goods, Muira's irons look schmick.

S-58 look alright in a girl next door, "do her cause it is convenient" kind of way.

Bailsworth
28th July 2009, 03:59 PM
Please excuse the ignorance of a recent member, but i am curious as to why the specification for cast clubs? It is to remove the "bag chatter" factor, which would (i guess) improve possible resale value? Or is it something far less technical along the lines of "they feel better".

I have been using forged irons for about 11 years now and i don't know if i could go back..

Courty
28th July 2009, 04:04 PM
http://hazel8500.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/can-o-worms.gif

3oneday
28th July 2009, 04:06 PM
Good question, one I have been asked a few times.

I guess having ho'd so much over the years is one of the reasons I like to use the Toppies. I would feel comfortable to hit them off gravel if I had to.

virge666
28th July 2009, 04:28 PM
I have been using forged irons for about 11 years now and i don't know if i could go back..

Quick answer - do not want an arguement, there is no point as I am right.

:)

Nowadays - there is no difference in feel between cast and forged. The club design and shaft define the feel of the club. A cast blade will have more feedback than a perimeter weighted forged club. This is due to design and not manufacturing process.

In the olden days of yester-year - only blades were forged, so cast clubs were big chucky ugly things made of cast iron ... and blades were get your penis out on the first tee and stroke it smooth soft gooey high carbon steel.

This old wifes tail has been carried on through the years of golf suggesting that forged clubs have more feel - this is a crock of shite as it is a lump of steel on the end of a stick. The club design and COG location will define the feedback, and as long as the steel you have made the club out of is harder than the golf ball it hits . . . there is no such thing as "soft feel"

Best I can do.

3oneday
28th July 2009, 04:30 PM
Answers that long don't belong in my threads. ;)

Chris32
28th July 2009, 04:38 PM
Pick the ones with the best re-sale value :)

3oneday
28th July 2009, 04:39 PM
Pick the ones with the best re-sale value :)well said.

****ed if I know why I chose Cleveland then :oops:

Scottt
28th July 2009, 04:46 PM
S-58 look alright in a girl next door, "do her cause it is convenient" kind of way.

:smt038

PeteyD
28th July 2009, 06:20 PM
That's a pretty short answer for Virge.

Here you go Just - http://www.golfsmith.com/display/?page=ps/new_clubs_2009_ping

Pre ordering available now.

Bailsworth
31st July 2009, 07:56 PM
Quick answer - do not want an arguement, there is no point as I am right.

:)


This old wifes tail has been carried on through the years of golf suggesting that forged clubs have more feel - this is a crock of shite as it is a lump of steel on the end of a stick. The club design and COG location will define the feedback, and as long as the steel you have made the club out of is harder than the golf ball it hits . . . there is no such thing as "soft feel"

Best I can do.

I like a bit of arrogance in a response :wink:

I just can't help but think that there IS always going to be a difference between "a hunk of steel" that has been heated and hammered into shape, compared to one that has been heated even further into a liquid state and then poured into a mold.

As many club makers will tell you, the notion of "soft feel" is far more to do with the sound made at impact as opposed to the sensation felt through the hands.
That being said (and in an effort to bring it all back to thread relevance) I played a round with a set of the new Tour Preferred irons last week, and there was an audible "click" at impact on "middled" shots, the sound (i have found anyway) is specific to a cast iron head. The clubs performed well, definitely a higher trajectory than both the Mizuno and Ben Hogan blades i have had in the bag over the past decade. Still very workable on command, and about 3-5m longer than my blades, but this was in part due to the stronger lofts. I would recommend the irons..

3oneday
31st July 2009, 07:58 PM
Larger would be cool ;)

PeteyD
31st July 2009, 08:03 PM
Need that magnifying thing that pops up to read that

just
31st July 2009, 08:04 PM
Here you go Just - http://www.golfsmith.com/display/?page=ps/new_clubs_2009_ping

Pre ordering available now.
I've already spoken to my preferred supplier.8)

The Ping (http://www.ping.com/) website has been updated with all the new stuff.

Bailsworth
31st July 2009, 08:44 PM
Larger would be cool ;)

Understandable, apologies folks, was just attempting to decrease the impact if my innate verbosity..

3oneday
31st July 2009, 09:23 PM
Forget Virge, the cast forged thing has been done to death. Some people think they can stop an argument, that's all :)

henno
1st August 2009, 09:32 AM
I just can't help but think that there IS always going to be a difference between "a hunk of steel" that has been heated and hammered into shape, compared to one that has been heated even further into a liquid state and then poured into a mold.

Of course there is. And forged carbon steel is generally softer. No question. You'd certainly notice it in a hammer or a chisel, or anything you use to hit something harder than the tool itself.

Telling me that you can gauge the hardness of a piece of metal by bouncing a soft rubber ball on it just doesn't compute. It's like saying you can feel whether your alloy wheels are forged by simply kicking the rubber tyre around it.

Dazza
1st August 2009, 01:14 PM
Toppies all the way.... If you're man enough. :p

henno
1st August 2009, 05:24 PM
This poll useless yet?

PeteyD
1st August 2009, 06:14 PM
Get some old school blades. Macgregor VIPs or Cobra Tour Models :D

3oneday
1st August 2009, 07:02 PM
This poll useless yet?

Yep, probably.

Toppies played OK today, if I want shiny I'll decide later ;)

mike
1st August 2009, 08:05 PM
Haven't read this thread.

Is it worth my while doing so?

3oneday
1st August 2009, 08:11 PM
Absolutely, I read all your posts :p

mike
1st August 2009, 10:37 PM
Wtf? I don't even read all of my posts.

Lucasto23
7th August 2009, 02:18 PM
you bought something yet ;)

3oneday
7th August 2009, 02:24 PM
Maybe... once or twice :oops:

Lucasto23
7th August 2009, 06:34 PM
do tell :P

3oneday
7th August 2009, 06:37 PM
I'd rather wait ;)

3oneday
9th August 2009, 07:43 PM
Tour Preferred with KBS in transit 8)

adlo
9th August 2009, 07:46 PM
That poll came in handy then.....

haysey
9th August 2009, 08:02 PM
Tour Preferred with KBS in transit 8)



Nice choice:smt023

henno
9th August 2009, 08:30 PM
Nice choice:smt023

Yep. Last on the list, according to the poll.

Courty
9th August 2009, 09:02 PM
Tour Preferred with KBS in transit 8)

Dibs. 8)

3oneday
9th August 2009, 10:05 PM
This poll useless yet?


That poll came in handy then.....


Yep. Last on the list, according to the poll.

you blokes rate yourselves too highly clearly.


;)

Lucasto23
10th August 2009, 12:02 AM
Noice!!!

Scottt
10th August 2009, 05:26 AM
I like a bit of arrogance in a response :wink:

I just can't help but think that there IS always going to be a difference between "a hunk of steel" that has been heated and hammered into shape, compared to one that has been heated even further into a liquid state and then poured into a mold.

As many club makers will tell you, the notion of "soft feel" is far more to do with the sound made at impact as opposed to the sensation felt through the hands.
That being said (and in an effort to bring it all back to thread relevance) I played a round with a set of the new Tour Preferred irons last week, and there was an audible "click" at impact on "middled" shots, the sound (i have found anyway) is specific to a cast iron head. The clubs performed well, definitely a higher trajectory than both the Mizuno and Ben Hogan blades i have had in the bag over the past decade. Still very workable on command, and about 3-5m longer than my blades, but this was in part due to the stronger lofts. I would recommend the irons..

So the TMs clicked. Well I guess that solves that then.

How about I make two 1kg balls of steel, one cast and one forged, and drop one on each of your feet, and you tell me which is softer. That's pretty well on par with saying you can gauge softness by hitting a little rubber ball.

Not to mention the TMs have a different head shape, hafts, grips etc to the forged buttery beauties you are comparing them to.

3oneday
10th August 2009, 07:32 AM
I hit some J36 cavs yesty, gee they were soft !




;)

just
10th August 2009, 08:32 AM
The J38s are softer!:razz:

3oneday
10th August 2009, 08:45 AM
So I hear.... so soft they leave dimple impressions in the face even !!!!

virge666
10th August 2009, 08:45 AM
The J39's were so soft - the ball left an imprint on the club head...

virge666
10th August 2009, 08:45 AM
So I hear.... so soft they leave dimple impressions in the face even !!!!


Great minds think alike.

Hux
10th August 2009, 08:49 AM
So the TMs clicked. Well I guess that solves that then.

How about I make two 1kg balls of steel, one cast and one forged, and drop one on each of your feet, and you tell me which is softer. That's pretty well on par with saying you can gauge softness by hitting a little rubber ball.

Not to mention the TMs have a different head shape, hafts, grips etc to the forged buttery beauties you are comparing them to.

Why don't you get someone to drop them on your head instead :mrgreen:

Surely the softer/harder argument has been done to death. Maybe it could be argued they have a softer apparent feel?

I like forged cause they gouge and mark so well on some of our 2nd rate goats tracks who feel that gravel in a bunker is an acceptable state of affairs.:smt013

henno
10th August 2009, 09:13 AM
Hux, after I read your post this morning I went and took a look, and I have a few nasty nicks on my irons as well. 9-iron in particular.

Hooray for cast 431 stainless!

razaar
10th August 2009, 09:30 AM
It is noticeable that most of the newer model cast irons have vibration dampeners behind the face to achieve a softer feel. I have yet to feel a softer contact than the Mizuno cavitys. The density of the head from the forging process and the design characteristics appears to dampen vibrations more efficiently than many of the cast heads.

3oneday
10th August 2009, 09:45 AM
You should try the bridgeys, although maybe the PX 5.5 help the feel.

Chris32
10th August 2009, 10:12 AM
I stick foam in the shafts, it makes them feel so soft I don't even know when I shank one!

Bailsworth
11th August 2009, 11:34 PM
So the TMs clicked. Well I guess that solves that then.

How about I make two 1kg balls of steel, one cast and one forged, and drop one on each of your feet, and you tell me which is softer. That's pretty well on par with saying you can gauge softness by hitting a little rubber ball.

Not to mention the TMs have a different head shape, hafts, grips etc to the forged buttery beauties you are comparing them to.

Speaking of click (or should i say clique) you guys don't really seem to rate the opinions of newbies do ya? ;)

Scottt
12th August 2009, 12:27 AM
Speaking of click (or should i say clique) you guys don't really seem to rate the opinions of newbies do ya? ;)

Sure we do. But the issue you chose to jump into boots and all happens to be an old favourite of the forum, and the opinion you hold seems to be the most popular old wives' tale in the game.

moree golfer
12th August 2009, 03:03 PM
Opinions are like @#rseholes everyone has one (or at least the fortunate ones).

3oneday
16th August 2009, 02:47 PM
Took the Tour Preferred with KBS out today, the 5 and 6 iron were very good to chip with early (out of the trees).

Hit some very solid irons on the back nine, including a 4 iron over the stick on the 175 metre par 3 11th, went like a dart. Hit a great 8 iron about 140 on the 17th (pity the hole is only 133).

Bag seems set ;), only stick I didn't hit was the 3 iron.

Very similar to the R7 TP in head shape, just less offset. Can't comment on the KBS yet as I probably only flushed a few, but the ones I did held nicely 8)

Lucasto23
17th August 2009, 01:09 AM
Took the Tour Preferred with KBS out today, the 5 and 6 iron were very good to chip with early (out of the trees).

Hit some very solid irons on the back nine, including a 4 iron over the stick on the 175 metre par 3 11th, went like a dart. Hit a great 8 iron about 140 on the 17th (pity the hole is only 133).

Bag seems set ;), only stick I didn't hit was the 3 iron.

Very similar to the R7 TP in head shape, just less offset. Can't comment on the KBS yet as I probably only flushed a few, but the ones I did held nicely 8)

Enjoy the crap crub goodness yoda:lol:

TheNuclearOne
17th August 2009, 01:28 AM
KBS rool.

Scottt
17th August 2009, 03:09 AM
Pete: how many sets of irons have you bought and either bagged or sold since starting this thread?

goonie
17th August 2009, 08:25 AM
Pete: how many sets of irons have you bought and either bagged or sold since starting this thread?

Probably all of the ones in the poll :-), plus the clevelands.

3oneday
17th August 2009, 09:04 AM
Well, 27th July is like 3 weeks ago !

Never bothered with AP2, Toppies are still in the shed.

Hit the MP32/60 combos, great clubs but on a bad day too hard.
Bought the R7 TP's but they were only $150 less than the Tour Preferred and I had that been there done that feeling.
Cleves, too shiny.

Almost took a set of Tour Preferred to Bankstown last Sunday but stumbled across the set that GolfEtail were selling. They had no mention of anything special except the shaft manufacturer said KBS. So I played Toppies at Bankstown (in between hitting a few of Ricks Bridgeys with PX 5.5). Won the auction walking up the last !

They arrived Thursday, hit the 6 iron in the warm up nets at Windsor 6 times Sunday at 7.15. Hit off 7.16 !

So there you go, I might do some work this week (once I find a putter and a short game :lol:).

Scottt
17th August 2009, 09:11 AM
Macjack's MP62s look alright at $500...

3oneday
17th August 2009, 09:12 AM
Wrong thread mate, this problem is solved ;)

macjackass
17th August 2009, 09:17 AM
Wrong thread mate, this problem is solved ;)

For now ;)

goonie
17th August 2009, 10:15 AM
Wrong thread mate, this problem is solved ;)

So the TP's are the shizz hey, maybe I should keep mine ans put the KBS's in them, what flex KBS do you have, and do they play to flex? I have read a few threads saying they are a little soft to flex.

3oneday
17th August 2009, 11:04 AM
They just say KBS Tour S, so I assume this is the first lot that came out.

I won't rave about them yet, but the couple I hit well I hit really well. Sad to say, the head on the TM's look better than the toppies do ;)

goonie
17th August 2009, 02:30 PM
KB tour were the first ones, but I think it is just a name change, mine just say KBS tour by FST and I just picked them up an hour a go.

3oneday
17th August 2009, 03:14 PM
Cool, so in the TP or the Maxfli ?

goonie
17th August 2009, 06:09 PM
In the maxflis first, I like the blade short irons so I can keep the ball down if needed. But I must say I have been surprised how forgiving the long irons are too.