The I Hate Projectx shafts thread

[u8ergolfer]

Got my hands on a set of Ap2's with the ol' projy x's in em.. did a NOOOOOIIIIICE deal with a fellow club member for my Tour preferred TM's (dunno why - didn't like em, but that's another story).

And now. two sets of these later, I am happy to stand by the following comment:


"Project X shafts are the most over rated under performing piece of shit attached to a grip and head I have ever used"

please get a 0.22 out and lob one up my arse if I ever use these poor excuses for a mop handle again..:smt076

[3oneday]

Dunno, they seem to work for the Pros ?

[u8ergolfer]

Most pro's I know still seem quite happy with the DGX100, unless they stand on the other side of the ball play 2 drivers and have their caddy carry a callaway staff bag....

[Webster]

PX are a nice shaft. Perhaps you are just not worthy.

[u8ergolfer]

Im not good enough for sure...One thing about em tho.. they're consistant.. first set was shite and the second set's (lack of) feel was the same....not heavy enough I reckon.....

[Scottt]

Aren't they 110g+?

[u8ergolfer]

DGS are 127g, DGX I think are 130g.

[Hux]

Horses for course.

You must feel very sensitive to shafting :-)

[u8ergolfer]

They are over rated pieces of shite, pure and simple...The rifle/rifle flighted was a far better shaft...the proj x is simply marketing rubbish. they are a truly shite shaft..Im trying to get a modern head like the AP2 to behave as I would like, and the shaft just ruins it...

[Webster]

just because you stink doesn't mean its the shafts fault. these are a good players shaft which you clearly aren't. try something else.

[u8ergolfer]

just because you stink doesn't mean its the shafts fault. these are a good players shaft which you clearly aren't. try something else.

Could you give me some tips on how to use them?

[Scottt]

What specifically don't you like about it, Uber?

A lot of guys are using the PXs on tour. Sergio among them. Decent ballstriker, him...

[rick3003]

Im with you U8. Most demanding boardy shaft I have hit. Cant work the ball at all, these shaft only want to go right to left.

Cant wait to reshaft my 60's with DG's.

[Johnny Canuck]

I'm the opposite. I think DG are shit. I sold a set of irons with DGs in them because I couldn't get any consistency out of them.

Rifles are quality.

PXs are even better.

Maybe you should switch to graphite.

[u8ergolfer]

I really did like the rifle flighted 6.O, a great shaft.. Proj X 6.0.. dead set A grade DUD!! boardy as, it won't go right or left, just wants to float up in the air and then drop like a bit of a dead duck..

I like the ball to still be spinning a bit when it starts to drop..

[zigwah]

I like em even if the ones i have are too strong for me.

[u8ergolfer]

What specifically don't you like about it, Uber?

A lot of guys are using the PXs on tour. Sergio among them. Decent ballstriker, him...


Serg is the ultimate float loader type (I know a TGM shit descriptor) but maybe the shaft works best for that load type. Philly Mickleson loaded it up a simliar way prior to changing coaches, from Rick Reilly to Butch H..

Its probably a good shaft for some but not others...me included. I'm sure it works best as you maintain/have an increase in (some sort of) lag, but with a rotating/casting type swing, they don't seem to perform.

[TheNuclearOne]

I wonder if you used too hard a flex. The big rule for Project X is that they play damn stiff.

[Hux]

Well just cause they don't suit your swing doesn't mean they are shite for everyone does it?

Could it be that the 6.0's are too stiff for you - did you try 5.5's?

My 6.0's are soft stepped once and are nice. The club fitters told me that they tested out as being very stiff (FCM is 7.3)

[u8ergolfer]

Well just cause they don't suit your swing doesn't mean they are shite for everyone does it?

Could it be that the 6.0's are too stiff for you - did you try 5.5's?

My 6.0's are soft stepped once and are nice. The club fitters told me that they tested out as being very stiff (FCM is 7.3)


6.0 to 7.3????? big difference..

[Jontea]

The 6.0 PX shaft is more like 120+ grams and does play abit stiffer than 6.0 Rifles. So if you soft stepped the 6.0 PX by two shafts then you would get the correct result for your specs. Don't throw them in the bin just yet, try my suggestion first and go to see a fitter/club maker ? It might cost you $100/150 to get the right balance, even if you had one club done as a demo to prove it to yourself first. My suggestion would be to put the 3ir shaft into the 5ir, swingweight and cut to length.

[goonie]

PX's are not the shaft for me either, I think I need a higher spinning shaft and the PX's are a low spin shaft.

[markTHEblake]

Got my hands on a set of Ap2's with the ol' projy x's in em..

so you got yourself a set of clubs from another person, and you thought that they would suit you(and because they didnt, then they must be junk)

that would be like me borrowing Jacks suit and thinking that I would look as good in it as he does.

[Tomson]

Have you tried KBS tours? Same guy designed both. Maybe they would suit you more.

[virge666]

Got my hands on a set of Ap2's with the ol' projy x's in em.. did a NOOOOOIIIIICE deal with a fellow club member for my Tour preferred TM's (dunno why - didn't like em, but that's another story).
:smt076


Your a RSS - there is not 1 not 1 single RSS player I know who like Proj X.

The RSS is a shallow angle of attack, we like a softer tip and some spin on the ball - otherwise the ball never gets in the air and "on plane"

Heavy shafts and softer tips. KBS tour are the ducks guts... you can also get by with proj flighted - but the shorter irons will piss you off.

[schanop]

What is RSS?

[Jarro]

RightSidedSwinger

[schanop]

Aha moment, Thank Jarro.

[Hux]

What is RSS?

rss = you pulling it out of your arss trying to get the ball in the air :mrgreen:

[virge666]

rss = you pulling it out of your arss trying to get the ball in the air :mrgreen:


Yep - that is pretty much it.. :)

Stack and Tilt are in the same boat.

[u8ergolfer]

Your a RSS - there is not 1 not 1 single RSS player I know who like Proj X.

The RSS is a shallow angle of attack, we like a softer tip and some spin on the ball - otherwise the ball never gets in the air and "on plane"

Heavy shafts and softer tips. KBS tour are the ducks guts... you can also get by with proj flighted - but the shorter irons will piss you off.

Thats the "dropping like a dead duck" thing with 'em too.. my attempts with em were just that..might try those black golds' in em tomorrow, they were destined for something else but a detour in what they were to go into may be the go now..

[zigwah]

have no trouble what so ever getting these shafts in the air, and they are apparently close to 7.0's, but i'm going to soft step and try and get a little more distance.

And am finding that since i have stopped trying to swing steeper and then flatter and then finally understanding swinging flatter with my shoulders, i can get these shafts to do just about anything i want them to.

[goonie]

Your a RSS - there is not 1 not 1 single RSS player I know who like Proj X.

The RSS is a shallow angle of attack, we like a softer tip and some spin on the ball - otherwise the ball never gets in the air and "on plane"

Heavy shafts and softer tips. KBS tour are the ducks guts... you can also get by with proj flighted - but the shorter irons will piss you off.

I may be in this boat too, I only take small shallow divots which would lead me to think I have a shallow attack angle. I have just tried PXs in my spare set and they are not for me, my DG shafted clubs go much better, but some times the long irons don't carry like they should and I am thinking I am not producing enough spin with the DGS in the longer clubs.

What other shafts would you recommend? can I reshaft the longer clubs with higher spin shafts? and does this carry over to wood shafts as well?

[Johnny Canuck]

Thats the "dropping like a dead duck" thing with 'em too.. my attempts with em were just that..might try those black golds' in em tomorrow, they were destined for something else but a detour in what they were to go into may be the go now..

So because you can handle these shafts with your swing style they are overrated pieces of crap?

I'll bet your one of those golfers that always blames his equipment when he fails.

[just]

Personally I always blame the course when I fail, I find it therapuetic!

[PeteyD]

It is always the big balls fault. I lurve PX shafts. KBS Tours are betterer though.

[Jarro]

I really can't comment as i've never had a set of irons with the PX shafts installed :(

I'd like to try them one day though.

[zigwah]

Got my hands on a set of Ap2's with the ol' projy x's in em.. did a NOOOOOIIIIICE deal with a fellow club member for my Tour preferred TM's (dunno why - didn't like em, but that's another story).

And now. two sets of these later, I am happy to stand by the following comment:


"Project X shafts are the most over rated under performing piece of shit attached to a grip and head I have ever used"

please get a 0.22 out and lob one up my arse if I ever use these poor excuses for a mop handle again..:smt076

you should post those pieces of shite directly to me and i will destroy them under amnesty

[rebjon]

you should post those pieces of shite directly to me and i will destroy them under amnesty

Better yet throw them one the classifieds for free....

[Iain]

I really can't comment as i've never had a set of irons with the PX shafts installed :(

I'd like to try them one day though.

They're very nice...

[u8ergolfer]

When they come out in the next day or two they'll be duly listed at the same price as the last set of em I sold + plus postage...I will even leave the grips on em..

[Scottt]

When they come out in the next day or two they'll be duly listed at the same price as the last set of em I sold + plus postage...I will even leave the grips on em..

Slow learner?

[BrisVegas]

...my DG shafted clubs go much better, but some times the long irons don't carry like they should and I am thinking I am not producing enough spin with the DGS in the longer clubs.

What other shafts would you recommend?

DG Superlites?

[Johnny Canuck]

Slow learner?
:smt038:smt038:smt038

[u8ergolfer]

I was hoping to get out of C grade with this better gear...

[Johnny Canuck]

I was hoping to get out of C grade with this better gear...

Things are so much clearer now.

[Scottt]

I think he is taking the piss. He has previously mentioned shooting mid-70s with regularity.

[Johnny Canuck]

I think he is taking the piss. He has previously mentioned shooting mid-70s with regularity.

I was wondering. I thought that there is no way that someone in c-grade should be working the ball left and right. They do it enough un-intentionally on their own.

[Scottt]

:lol: Love that draw bias!

[virge666]

I think he is taking the piss. He has previously mentioned shooting mid-70s with regularity.

LOL, I was waiting for someone to take that bait.

[Captain Nemo]

I have them in my X-20 Tour's after going to the Callaway fitting centre, gave me the best flight, spin rate, distance, dispersion etc..
Shot 4 over on the weekend, going alright!
I must admit they took a while to get used to, as i had D.G Superlites in my 762's?
I hit the superlite further, but have better control with the PX Flighted, most likely due to the heavier shaft i suspect.

[BrisVegas]

I have them in my X-20 Tour's .... i had D.G Superlites in my 762's?

I'm sorry, you changed from 762's to X-20's!! and you call yourself titleist.... :lol:

[Boonie]

DG S300's all the way for me.

Clearly the Project X are good shafts, because a lot of good players use them, but personally I'm in the 'can't stand them' camp.

[Chris32]

I don't like the new ones, but the original satin shafts have always played easier/better than the chrome version.

I have some 5.0 satins to try over the next few months

[Captain Nemo]

I'm sorry, you changed from 762's to X-20's!! and you call yourself titleist.... :lol:
I know!
The 762's where one of the most underatted Titty irons in my opinion.
I think i was going thru a phase, I'm happy with the x-20's though.

[PeteyD]

I don't like the new ones, but the original satin shafts have always played easier/better than the chrome version.

I have some 5.0 satins to try over the next few months


They are supposed to be the same. I agree that the satin ones seemed to be easier to play, and felt better.

[u8ergolfer]

SOFT stepping a set of black golds after installing a couple in the 5 iron and 8 iron today...What a difference...The ol' Penfold Ace wants to jump off the face now...

BTW frequency read the set of black golds and they are extremely well matched, however, they displayed a big spine in a few.. displayed some BIG Numbers too..FREQ 3i = 340, cycled up by around 9 from there give or take 1 cycle, all shafts uncut of course..

Much, much better shaft..