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Courty
13th November 2008, 06:06 PM
OK. Here's a question for those who have attended both the last 2 years Champs. Which of the 2 venue's did you prefer... KV or PM?

As far as I'm concerned, Palm Meadows was a better course, but KV was a better location when you consider everything else. IMO, golf is secondary on the Champs weekend, so my vote goes to KV.

Edit: note that this is a public poll.

Jarro
13th November 2008, 06:17 PM
I agree that PM is a far better course.

KV is a better setup for the social aspect of the Champs ... although the Rex Room was pretty cool too 8)

Hard to split them really ... but i reckon i'd go for KV in a pinch.

just
13th November 2008, 06:18 PM
I preferred getting to and from PM. The food was better at PM, and provided we could get a function room and we get a good deal I would be back in a flash. The organisation from the course was also better.
The food at the bowls club at KV on the Saturday was shithouse but on the whole the experience was good and the price very attractive.

AndyP
13th November 2008, 06:21 PM
Positives and Negatives both ways. Unfortunately I didn't experience the socialising once we were back to our rooms at KV. For this reason I found PM better with the TV, pool table, and poker all in the one spot.
Golf? Who cares?

dc68
13th November 2008, 07:28 PM
PM by a mickey hair.


i nearly went for KV because of the easier access to BYO later on in the night.

Jarro
13th November 2008, 07:35 PM
i nearly went for KV because of the easier access to BYO later on in the night.

.. that's a very good point :smt023

Bruce
13th November 2008, 07:43 PM
The Rex room was the tie breaker for me.

Having access to pool, poker, telly, drinking and socialising without having to go to different people's rooms was the winner for me.

Eag's
13th November 2008, 07:45 PM
Very tough call I liked both but PM gets my vote.

PeteyD
13th November 2008, 08:49 PM
PM for the facilities we had. But only just.

damoocow
13th November 2008, 09:12 PM
KV without a doubt in my book - didn't totally hate PM but thought the course was not very good value for money. The biggest thing it has going for it is the location across from the Radisson. I think a return to PM would really be improved by using different tees [except 18 ?] each day, if only for some variation to the course .
Kooralbyn has a great mix of holes and landscape and we did seem to have the run of the place - that Bowling Green on the Sat night is one of my great ozgolf memories.

goughy
13th November 2008, 09:23 PM
KV without a doubt in my book - that Bowling Green on the Sat night is one of my great ozgolf memories.

For a lawn bowls green it seemed to handle plenty of warnie style bowling!! :mrgreen:

Flowergirl
13th November 2008, 09:48 PM
P.M. for me too. Kooralbyn meant a hire car for us - and an early start to catch a flight back. The Rex room was great and the food better.
And as AndyP says - who really cares about the golf!!!!!!

Then again I did really like Bribie and the rooftop party on the FRiday night. That was a good venue too.

peter_rs
14th November 2008, 07:58 AM
PM is fine I didn't really see the same part of the course twice ;) I think the staff went out of there way for us.

KV is a long drive from the airports.

It would be interesting to see the 4 venues rated..

AndyP
14th November 2008, 08:45 AM
I actually thing the white tees on saturday has some merit.
Might keep the field a bit more even for sunday off the tips.This is where I make my "told you so" comment.

I told you so.

peter_rs
14th November 2008, 08:49 AM
Its not AP.

I would say the sat scores where fine given the condition and the fact few had played before.

Blue was not hard.

The only way I would support white is if it was a stroke round but that would slow things more.

As a side note neither round was over 4:30 which is not long. Sat was a little slow but that can happen of any tee in any format.

For the length of the round you think golfers could score correctly.

CCR both days was 34pts not that bad with all the drinking.

sms316
14th November 2008, 08:50 AM
I thought the course played easier on Saturday, but that may have something to do with not playing with a filthy hangover.

peter_rs
14th November 2008, 08:59 AM
It was the wrong wind for the course. all the harder holes were down wind. What did you hit in on 4 both days? for me it was PW to 7.

sms316
14th November 2008, 09:01 AM
4 iron on Sat, 5 iron on Sun.

BrisVegas
14th November 2008, 09:41 AM
I actually thing the white tees on saturday has some merit.
Might keep the field a bit more even for sunday off the tips.

I think Sat off whites and Sun off blues would work if we go back to Palm Meadows. I say that from a fairness point of view and also because it's boring playing the plates all the time.

I had a good time at both KV & PM. I think PM is a "better" course, but the course is only a part of it. The accom and food and function room were all a bit nicer at PM, but then you'd expect it to be for the extra $100. Who knows if shavey can pull off a mates rates deal like we got this year, but it's the best deal I think we'll get on the Gold Coast.

I'm happy with either. Seeing as KV isn't operating currently, the default winner would be Palm Meadows.

dc68
14th November 2008, 10:10 AM
same as PH too for that matter.




The Blues was the correct decision that day!!!!!

dc68
14th November 2008, 10:13 AM
Masochistic **** even?

peter_rs
14th November 2008, 11:23 AM
I think Sat off whites and Sun off blues would work if we go back to Palm Meadows. I say that from a fairness point of view and also because it's boring playing the plates all the time.


How do you get that....

After round one you had to go back 8 places to find someone off a hcp under 10.

I don't see why people think a short course helps high hcp players.

When you are only playing a course twice can you really get bored playing the same tees... and they were not the plates.

You are never going to win the champs without two good scores. The top scores boths days were high hcps, you had to go back 7 places on sunday to find a sub 10 hcp.

BrisVegas
14th November 2008, 12:07 PM
My comments have nothing to do with handicap or this years results, so not sure what that's all about....

I heard plenty of people complaining that the course was just too long for them from the tees we played. To make it more fair and/or interesting for those that dont hit it miles, I think it would be nice to have a round off the whites.

markTHEblake
14th November 2008, 12:16 PM
if we play PM off the whites the fairway bunkers will be in play for more golfers for the tee shot, potentially making it more difficult, the fairways seem quite wide short of the bunkers in typical resort fashion.

as it stands off the blues, most of the fairway bunkers were at a distance of 200-230, so the whites probably place them at about 170-200 which suits me much better :-)

damoocow
14th November 2008, 12:17 PM
My comments have nothing to do with handicap or this years results, so not sure what that's all about....

I heard plenty of people complaining that the course was just too long for them from the tees we played. To make it more fair and/or interesting for those that dont hit it miles, I think it would be nice to have a round off the whites.

I agree with Vegas - I think it's something worth considering no matter where we play the next Champs

damoocow
14th November 2008, 12:21 PM
[QUOTE=markTHEblake;266234]if we play PM off the whites the fairway bunkers will be in play for more golfers for the tee shot, potentially making it more difficult, the fairways seem quite wide short of the bunkers in typical resort fashion.
QUOTE]

well at least there might be some variety ! - we had the same pins for both days

peter_rs
14th November 2008, 12:34 PM
Sorry BV when "fairness" is used in regards length its normally high markers effected.

Put it this way

at PM off the blue there were 22 players within 9 points of the lead
at KV off the whites (?) there were 9 players within 9 points of the lead.

I think having the same pins helped scores on day 2. The wind/alcohol changed it enough for me.

Who hit the same shots on every hole both days?

damoocow
14th November 2008, 12:38 PM
How many people are in contention doesn't really matter to me - more interested in variety.

BrisVegas
14th November 2008, 12:47 PM
Put it this way

at PM off the blue there were 22 players within 9 points of the lead
at KV off the whites (?) there were 9 players within 9 points of the lead.


That's meaningless. The winning score was 10 shots lower this year, so of course there are more people within "9 points of the lead".

peter_rs
14th November 2008, 12:51 PM
How many people are in contention doesn't really matter to me - more interested in variety.

play more oz golf days then.

peter_rs
14th November 2008, 12:57 PM
That's meaningless. The winning score was 10 shots lower this year, so of course there are more people within "9 points of the lead".

KV CCR 38+37 = 75
KV Winning score =79 (+4 to CCR)

PM CCR 34+34 = 68
PM Winning score =70 (+2 to CCR)

not that much better.

damoocow
14th November 2008, 01:04 PM
play more oz golf days then.

If that was meant to be amusing then it's genuinely funny,
if not.......................................

BrisVegas
14th November 2008, 01:05 PM
Before I waste any more time trying to decipher your latest effort... What was the question again? :wink:

Oh that's right... I & several others that have posted so far think it would be nice to mix it up a bit with a round off both sets of tees.

That's not too unreasonable is it? Is there a particular reason why you're so hell-bent on playing the plates no matter what the feedback is?

peter_rs
14th November 2008, 01:11 PM
The decipher was KV played easy, scores were not that much worse playing of the blues at PM.

peter_rs
14th November 2008, 01:19 PM
The reasons would be:
*Its the "Champs" not a ozgolf day. Its stab already why make it easier.
*Short tees on resort course brings more hazards into play.
*A belief that short course help low markers more as your short game has to be better.
*Why do you need variety if you only play a course twice a year?
*Make the champs at brooky where the ladies can more forward.

the list could go on.

I was happy to play the same tees as it gave me reference points even if the wind had changed.

BrisVegas
14th November 2008, 01:22 PM
they're your reasons peter. super. not everyone agrees with you apparently.

peter_rs
14th November 2008, 01:25 PM
Do you have any reason to want a change other then variety? Does it hurt to play the same tees twice?

Lucky the thread was about tee's and not venue ;)

GC
14th November 2008, 02:24 PM
playing off the same tee's didn't bother me at all, but another idea for next year could be Royal Pines Resort which you can get a room for 2 breakfast and golf for both for around $300 and they have 2 different courses.

Grunt
14th November 2008, 02:27 PM
How about Sunday Round at Palm Meadows and Saturday somewhere else. Why cant we get one of those deals where the Hotel transports you from course to course. Wit h40 players we should be able to get a good deal.

PeteyD
14th November 2008, 02:29 PM
I liked being able to leave our bags there etc. Although it would make the 3:00 am Birge Golf Lessons difficult ...

peter_rs
14th November 2008, 02:42 PM
If we play at any of the 5 course radisson does deals with you can get transport free for large groups.

Should we start the other way find a price that gets the most people then try and find a venue?

AndyP
14th November 2008, 02:48 PM
The reasons would be:
*Its the "Champs" not a ozgolf day. Its stab already why make it easier. We're there to have fun also.
Incidentally, if it was stroke, my equivalent score wouldn't have really changed anyway.

*Short tees on resort course brings more hazards into play.Good. I'd have to make a decision on what to do off the tee then. This time around the decision was easy....Driver.

*Why do you need variety if you only play a course twice a year?For some of us, there was a lack of variety between holes when you are using hybrids and woods into greens all the time.

Of course, you smashed the course on Sunday, so you wouldn't see a need for change.

Grunt
14th November 2008, 02:51 PM
If we play at any of the 5 course radisson does deals with you can get transport free for large groups.

Should we start the other way find a price that gets the most people then try and find a venue?


2 nights plus golf was $300 which was pretty damn good, wonder what we could get hitting em up for 2 nights and 2 rounds of golf. Would be interesting to see what we get.

Eag's
14th November 2008, 02:52 PM
I am all for mixing it up a bit next year, makes it a bit more interesting.

shazza_rs
14th November 2008, 02:58 PM
All this tees talk. Sheesh! At least you get the option. Ladies tees have about 5-10m difference between the front and back of the tee box.

Talk of variety. How often do you play the same course (members) and there is no change? Doesn't stop you going out every saturday to the same setup does it?

We play two rounds in two days. Is it really that incovenient to play off the same tees both days? In fact if you guys get to play off easier tees then where do i play from?

PeteyD
14th November 2008, 03:05 PM
Nope. I like the format. Same course, same tees. No need for variety my shotmaking gets me that easily.

peter_rs
14th November 2008, 03:12 PM
We're there to have fun also.
Incidentally, if it was stroke, my equivalent score wouldn't have really changed anyway.


Good for you. Don't get me wrong I like stab as I know it gives me a chance, and I can have a few wipes.

No white is not that much shorter AP (on most holes) it would just take driver out of play.

AndyP
14th November 2008, 03:30 PM
it would just take driver out of play.Why is this a problem? Back off with a fairway wood or you have to back the accuracy of your driver. That's my point.

Courty
14th November 2008, 03:36 PM
FWIW, I like idea of different tees (and especially different pins).

+0.02

Grunt
14th November 2008, 03:36 PM
You bet Rich, and on the day there will still be bitching about something.

AndyP
14th November 2008, 03:42 PM
Nope. You don't change the tees on the day. The decision has to be made beforehand.

Grunt
14th November 2008, 03:50 PM
Would not have been a problem to me. If I recall when I teed off the wind was nowhere near as bad as it slowly built up to the gale we had after 5 or 6 holes.

peter_rs
14th November 2008, 03:52 PM
Why is this a problem? Back off with a fairway wood or you have to back the accuracy of your driver. That's my point.

So your happy to not hit driver but still have a long club in?


I agree different pins would be good.

Rusty
14th November 2008, 04:02 PM
imho, Palm Meadows gets my vote, only just. location, course better nick, staff - course and Rado.

before the Champs i did think different tees on both days. but after, and as it is the Champs, and now think blues both days + maybe even a stroke comp. but definitely, change of pins would be good.


(+ the matchplay final on Sat - maybe as it is the final, should it be played from blues)

AndyP
14th November 2008, 05:16 PM
So your happy to not hit driver but still have a long club in?I'd expect to hit long clubs in on some holes. Other times I'd back myself to miss the bunkers. That's part of golf.

damoocow
14th November 2008, 10:37 PM
All this tees talk. Sheesh! At least you get the option. Ladies tees have about 5-10m difference between the front and back of the tee box.

Talk of variety. How often do you play the same course (members) and there is no change? Doesn't stop you going out every saturday to the same setup does it?

We play two rounds in two days. Is it really that incovenient to play off the same tees both days? In fact if you guys get to play off easier tees then where do i play from?

Shazza, your home course has 36 holes - surely you like that variety of holes - don't know what your tee blocks are like but my course regularly changes the tees around and a lot of tee blocks have been extended which offers the possibility of up to 40m from front to back which certainly changes the way many holes set up.......................

I don't think the champs tees both days is a matter of inconvenience - more a case of having a possible change in the way you decide to play the hole........ I think one of the reasons I didn't rate PM was because it really became a case of needing driver off pretty much every tee [including one of the par 3's] that sure gets monotonous after a while - it certainly needs some variation, perhaps the whites can provide that..................don't know what the ladies tee solution is either, sorry

shazza_rs
14th November 2008, 10:41 PM
Yes my course has 36 holes (for now), and I'm lucky in that i get to play ladies comp on the south course and sunday comp on the north course. I get the variety, but the men don't.

There is literally 5-10m difference in the ladies tees from the back of the tee box (plates) to the front. Really not a lot of difference every time i play. The only thing that changes the way the course plays for me is the weather conditions.

Oh and as for hitting driver off every tee and needing woods and hybrids into greens, welcome to how i play every day!

PS... learn how to hit your driver further. :)

damoocow
14th November 2008, 10:50 PM
I didn't really take any notice of the whites at PM - do you know where they were in relation to the ladies ?

shazza_rs
14th November 2008, 10:51 PM
About 5 metres behind them if you were lucky.

damoocow
14th November 2008, 10:53 PM
So Shazz - do you want to hit off the PM blues for some variety ? [insert hilarious emoticon here]

shazza_rs
14th November 2008, 10:55 PM
I'm not whinging for variety. Women's tees are often an afterthought on most courses. I'm used to it. :)

To be honest with you, the change in wind direction was good enough to change the course for me. And that is still hitting Driver on every hole. ;)

Flowergirl
15th November 2008, 07:42 AM
Boo hoo - fancy having to play off the same tees two days in a row.
What is wrong with you guys..............:shock:
Sorry - I don't get it.

Moe Norman
15th November 2008, 07:54 AM
I haven't been to the last 2 champs.

But I reckon Bribie Island is a good venue if you exclude Pacific Harbour from the course rota and just play Bribie twice.

not sure they would let us on Saturday though?

(much cheaper too)

BrisVegas
10th October 2011, 11:01 AM
bump!

Pelican is growing on me. There are some silly holes, but there is plenty of interest out there. The hotel venue itself is great though, probably better than Palm Meadows and KV all things considered.

I see the golf club are telling us we have to play blue tees both days this year, which is disappointing to me. I've enjoyed the variety and "drama" in years past where we've mixed it up. I can see why they want us off the blue tees though.. in theory it's gets us off the course faster.

virge666
10th October 2011, 11:11 AM
Yeah - the black tees were brutal last year, especially in the hurricane.

kpac
10th October 2011, 11:29 AM
Still KV for mine. I like the course at PW, but the atmosphere at kooralbyn was the cats pyjamas! we also had the complete run of the joint which is near impossible to find elsewhere. Take nothing away from PW as the deal we're getting is superb!

PeteyD
10th October 2011, 11:32 AM
Yea KV was something special.

PW is great too.

shavey
10th October 2011, 11:35 AM
We probably have to start thinking about this soon for 2012 people..

PeteyD
10th October 2011, 11:36 AM
Is there anywhere else to go? Probably not all things considered.

Eag's
10th October 2011, 11:40 AM
Because we are getting to our limit with numbers, the list of courses that could accommodate us is getting very small.

BrisVegas
10th October 2011, 11:40 AM
We probably have to start thinking about this soon for 2012 people..

Fair enough. Lock it in for Nudgee now then.



:lol: :wink:

Closesness to airports seems to be the key. What's Hyatt Coolum pricing like?

AndyP
10th October 2011, 11:50 AM
Do we really need to be too close to an airport? A fair few seem to be getting lifts from OZgolfers anyway. Can we take over some country course that will accommodate us on a Saturday?

BrisVegas
10th October 2011, 11:53 AM
no. yes. probably. any suggestions? If I was a country course, I'm sure i'd probably have my main members comp on a Saturday. That's why we've gravitated towards resort courses.

PeteyD
10th October 2011, 11:59 AM
Anything more than an hour or 2 drive might be difficult for the interstaters to make.

shavey
10th October 2011, 12:03 PM
Coolum would be about $60.00 extra pp, per night.

shavey
10th October 2011, 12:04 PM
Could be potential for Hunter Valley as we have a property (with it's own course) down there but still, still not close to what I can get at Pelican.

And Troon has a new course coming on line later this year which I could possibly get some reduced rates for, in conjunction with the others.

PeteyD
10th October 2011, 12:09 PM
The Pelican deal is unreal cheap for a weekend. If we were to go away for a year and want to come back they may not be as accommodating?

solarman
10th October 2011, 12:22 PM
We would have you up here, but we have to live here, and once you all leave we would have to suffer all repurcussions.

markTHEblake
10th October 2011, 12:34 PM
I like the idea of keeping one eye open on Kooralbyn opportunities.

damoocow
10th October 2011, 12:54 PM
Coolum would be about $60.00 extra pp, per night.

always wanted to stay and play there...

damoocow
10th October 2011, 12:55 PM
Do we really need to be too close to an airport? A fair few seem to be getting lifts from OZgolfers anyway. Can we take over some country course that will accommodate us on a Saturday?

This has been mentioned in the past - did Blakey look into it once a few years ago?

AndyP
10th October 2011, 01:26 PM
I think 69er looked into a Northern NSW course or two last year.

popper81
10th October 2011, 01:38 PM
I have never played Ocean Shores before, and the option may have been explored previously. We have 16 heading there 2 weeks after the champs. It is $190 a head for lunch, Saturday, 2 rounds with carts, breaky Sunday and accom. Yeah we are sharing 2 to a bed apparently on Saturday night but I thought it was a fair deal cost wise..

Just for everyone info...

sms316
10th October 2011, 01:43 PM
I have never played Ocean Shores before, and the option may have been explored previously. We have 16 heading there 2 weeks after the champs. It is $190 a head for lunch, Saturday, 2 rounds with carts, breaky Sunday and accom. Yeah we are sharing 2 to a bed apparently on Saturday night but I thought it was a fair deal cost wise..

Just for everyone info...
Do they have black tees there?

Steve57
10th October 2011, 01:46 PM
Do they have black tees there?

Only blue but just as penal as Pelican's black!
Especially if the wind blows.

popper81
10th October 2011, 01:50 PM
No black tee's all blue, but the pencils are fitted with DMDs, cart girl wears ugly pants on Saturday only, DC has a podium for his winners speech and the local pub has black drinks, allegedly!!

peter_rs
10th October 2011, 08:09 PM
Could be potential for Hunter Valley as we have a property (with it's own course) down there but still, still not close to what I can get at

hunter is no match for pw. Other courses that way have interest troon looks good

For mind we want to try and keep the price and two hours from a airport.

Bribe worked well.

Are we going to out grow pw any time soon

Courty
10th October 2011, 08:22 PM
How about King Island? ;)

kpac
10th October 2011, 08:24 PM
At some point it may be good to host it interstate. You know "grow the game" and all that.

shavey
10th October 2011, 08:28 PM
hunter is no match for pw. Other courses that way have interest troon looks good

For mind we want to try and keep the price and two hours from a airport.

Bribe worked well.

Are we going to out grow pw any time soon

I think we'll be fine for another few years honestly.. unless something happens with Horton and they get an influx of members

Outcast
10th October 2011, 08:29 PM
Sea Temple Port Douglas??

Far enough from Cairns that after you all leave we can deny being any part of it and thus avoid the repercussions that Solarman alluded to.. Not sure how much accomodation is up there and would probably need to organise a bus to collect the 40 or so who don't live here in paradise

Marto65
10th October 2011, 09:03 PM
Could have it anywhere ... DC68 will probably go back to back anyway.

markTHEblake
10th October 2011, 10:00 PM
I think we'll be fine for another few years honestly..
Yep, the status quo is fine, we should not change for the sake of change whilst Pelican meets our needs.

Mind you there is no harm in looking at alternatives, in case we do need to run with something else should we outgrow Pelican or otherwise. It will happen one day.

Jarro
11th October 2011, 07:34 AM
As good as the PW deal Shavey gets us is, i personally feel a step back to a smaller, country style course would be the way to go.

Remember, it's all about having fun.

Eag's
11th October 2011, 07:38 AM
It would be great to take the Champs to Toowoomba, after all, it is where Oz Golf started.
I know it's not convenient to airports and accommodation may be a little harder to source, but we could at least think about it?

sms316
11th October 2011, 07:50 AM
How about King Island? ;)
Yeah. About time Courty got near the map of Tassie.

BrisVegas
11th October 2011, 08:43 AM
It would be great to take the Champs to Toowoomba, after all, it is where Oz Golf started.
I know it's not convenient to airports and accommodation may be a little harder to source, but we could at least think about it?

There's a hotel on the golf course at City GC now. Plenty of entertainment at the club. Cheap green fees. Cheap bistro food etc.

Getting 60 of us on there on a Saturday will be a big problem though....

PeteyD
11th October 2011, 09:00 AM
Getting 60 of us on there on a Saturday will be a big problem though....

Main issue with anything other than resort courses.

Something not far out of TBar may get us on though?

BrisVegas
11th October 2011, 09:12 AM
Something not far out of TBar may get us on though?

:shock:

Has anyone got a banjo?

PeteyD
11th October 2011, 09:36 AM
TBar is banjo enough ;) Just don't tell Goughy

goughy
11th October 2011, 10:06 AM
What do you mean don't tell goughy! I just tuned mine up 'dang-a-dang dang-a-dang'

Would doubt toowoomba would be a go. Maybe you could get a group on on a sunday with plenty of notice but forget about saturday.

sms316
11th October 2011, 10:16 AM
What do you mean don't tell goughy! I just tuned mine up 'dang-a-dang dang-a-dang'

Would doubt toowoomba would be a go. Maybe you could get a group on on a sunday with plenty of notice but forget about saturday.
Might be up there with one of my dumber comments, but do the champs really need to be Saturday/Sunday? Sunday/Monday would make life a lot easier in some ways. For a start, a 2 tee start on Monday would be almost a given.

sms316
11th October 2011, 10:16 AM
ffs - agreeing with Dick. Dumb comment confirmed.

PeteyD
11th October 2011, 10:17 AM
Monday means time off work for some people that may not be able to get it.

PeteyD
11th October 2011, 10:33 AM
indeed. Normally i'd take the friday and monday, but stupid operation recovery has me 6 months in debt as far as holidays go

Jarro
11th October 2011, 11:05 AM
Monday means time off work for some people that may not be able to get it.

yeah .... so ?

Welcome to my world :p

Daves
11th October 2011, 11:10 AM
So is Bonville too expensive?, and or too far to travel?

peter_rs
11th October 2011, 11:13 AM
Toowoomba may be possible next year there is on course units going in at the ridge and with enough notice you could get a group on saturday but they want you to play in comp and it is not a mixed field normally.

I did think of Bonville as it does have an airport close but its about $60 extra range.

I still think bribie could work again.

BrisVegas
11th October 2011, 11:22 AM
dc68 won the Bribie champs. He will win it again in a canter.

AndyP
11th October 2011, 11:22 AM
Every time a suggestion is made, you have to ask: "Is it better than what we have now?"

just
11th October 2011, 11:22 AM
Despite never playing well there, I enjoy Pac Harbour.

Eag's
11th October 2011, 11:23 AM
The Bribie/PH was a great combo, I would vote for another Champs there.

BrisVegas
11th October 2011, 11:26 AM
North Lakes ? It might be the only way we can stop the dc-domination.

Marto65
11th October 2011, 11:28 AM
Every time a suggestion is made, you have to ask: "Is it better than what we have now?"

+ 1.

Is it change for changes sake? If what we have at the moment suits us 90% .. thats pretty good.

What are the problems with Pelican? No two tee start ... bad luck ...

PeteyD
11th October 2011, 11:29 AM
Too many weddings taking all the rooms :D

Pelican is great as a venue. And the deal the Shavemeister gets is pretty much unbeatable.

just
11th October 2011, 11:32 AM
I would guess the concern is: what's next years deal and what will the limitations be? Don't really care though.

Marto65
11th October 2011, 11:46 AM
The same course played Sat - Sun is a small negative too.

Blue/Black Tees would fix that ... ;)

just
11th October 2011, 11:50 AM
I don't think changing tees fixes that, and anyway it just gives the advantage to long hitters, just have a look at the past champs.

sms316
11th October 2011, 12:19 PM
True. Oxy smashes it.

BrisVegas
11th October 2011, 12:23 PM
Didn't oxy play the black tees using his 5 iron "for safety" ???

PeteyD
11th October 2011, 12:24 PM
The hurricane made cowards of us all.

just
11th October 2011, 12:31 PM
True. Oxy smashes it.
Don't know. I only have this to go on:

Hypothetical here.

Two golfers (lets call them Oxy & Vegas) off 20 & 6 handicaps are playing a two man ambrose.

The high marker hits the ball a very long way when he has a crack, but he's probably < 50% accurate with drivers.

BrisVegas
11th October 2011, 12:51 PM
Don't know. I only have this to go on:

Yes, oxy has managed to hit the odd one a long way in his time. I don't think he'll mind me telling you he's pretty erratic with driver though. hence the 5 iron bunt to keep it in play. Ambrose is a different game and I was geeing him up to belt it as hard as possible.

just
11th October 2011, 01:01 PM
Like I said don't know. Just stating that looking at the list of past champs it seems as if it's not conducive to short hitter winning.

shavey
11th October 2011, 01:03 PM
I know the guys down at Bonville as well and they weren't even in the ballpark of Pelican Waters unfortunately...

BrisVegas
11th October 2011, 01:04 PM
Like I said don't know. Just stating that looking at the list of past champs it seems as if it's not conducive to short hitter winning.

I don't think there's a common theme amongst the winners. Except they're all Champions. :cool:

The champs is just liike the other majors. AndyP and peteyd have won plenty of those, so I don't reckon length counts for much.

PeteyD
11th October 2011, 01:15 PM
2 day tournament favours consistant golfers. As you would expect.

AndyP
11th October 2011, 01:18 PM
Resort type courses have that extra long tee option (black), that most of the other courses don't, like Nudgee and McLeod.

sms316
11th October 2011, 01:20 PM
Nudgee and McLeod have no place being mentioned in this thread.

PeteyD
11th October 2011, 01:20 PM
And my major wins are both at Wynnum, noted for being an exceptionally long course!

BrisVegas
11th October 2011, 01:24 PM
Resort type courses have that extra long tee option (black), that most of the other courses don't, like Nudgee and McLeod.

which is what makes them a great option! Front tees and back tees so everyone has a fair crack.

just
11th October 2011, 01:28 PM
Popping pills?