The new handicap system

[hoggy33]

I think its easier to get down lower with the new system, you are rewarded more for good rounds and not penslised as hard for bad rounds

[Hatchman]

thanks Buzz, so it will start to be less volatile as I play more games then

Yes, and in a weird twist you can break your handicap and still go out.

[hoggy33]

That does happen also was playing off 2.2 had even par went out to 2.5 as acr was 68

[coalesce]

Yes, and in a weird twist you can break your handicap and still go out.

Yeah when you first get your handicap as you add more rounds, they take more of your best scores. With today's round my 9th in golflink, they will use my 3 best scores. Today will be my third best round, but in my case I'll still go out 0.7 as it wasn't that good!

[oldracer]

Who works out the daily slope as I just looked at my rounds and "they" whoever they are, reduced the daily slope by 2 points when the greens are cored???? to my mind it should go out as no one could putt on them

[AndyP]

That means that people could. My course's got cored this week, and I wouldn't be surprised if the same thing happened.

[oldracer]

so Andy, someone at the club determines that the daily slope goes in or out based on conditions?

[PeteyD]

I think you will find it is calculated based on the field.

[AndyP]

It is calculated by a formula based on performance of the field.

[Buzz]

Indeed. Perfect weather and my local course in tip top condition for club champs saw the DSR at 69 on the weekend!

[AndyP]

So far, I haven't seen any particular trend in the DSR, although we haven't had wet courses here for a fair while. It just seems to be luck of the draw on the day.

[oldracer]

Andy, Pete thanks for the replies

[davidw88]

The DSR at our club has gone down since the weather has got better, fairways were wet and now they are dried out a bit it has come down.

[LeftyHoges]

Who works out the daily slope as I just looked at my rounds and "they" whoever they are, reduced the daily slope by 2 points when the greens are cored???? to my mind it should go out as no one could putt on them

Just as an aside, the "Slope" only changes due to tees, the "DSR" (Daily Scratch Rating) changes due to the performance of the field on the day.

[jimandr]

Our DSR varies a bit with the strength of the breeze and the speed of the greens. But usually by one shot or by fractions.

It is always a mystery to me how scores seem to improve on cored greens. Mine certainly don't. But, it seems the high handicap players in particular can get the ball to stop on the green easier, and some of them don't threeputt as often. Ours are being done next month, so I'll see what happens to the DSR then.

[3Puttpete]

Our DSR varies a bit with the strength of the breeze and the speed of the greens. But usually by one shot or by fractions.

Golflink shows DSR in whole numbers for me. How do you find out the fractions?

[coalesce]

Our DSR varies a bit with the strength of the breeze and the speed of the greens. But usually by one shot or by fractions.

It is always a mystery to me how scores seem to improve on cored greens. Mine certainly don't. But, it seems the high handicap players in particular can get the ball to stop on the green easier, and some of them don't threeputt as often. Ours are being done next month, so I'll see what happens to the DSR then.

I reckon you've hit the nail on the head there. I was trying to work out why I tended to do better on cored greens, despite hating putting on them. On normal greens, I struggle to stop the ball from rolling off when chipping, and the cored greens will do that. You can then compensate for the cored greens when putting just by hitting it harder - even choppers can do that.

[AndyP]

Golflink shows DSR in whole numbers for me. How do you find out the fractions?

It should be in fractions, because everything else is.

[jimandr]

Golflink shows DSR in whole numbers for me. How do you find out the fractions?

While the DSR column shows whole numbers, the played to column varies, sometimes my 36 points gives different "played to" values, so I am assuming the actual DSR figure is 71.3 one week and 70.8 the next. I think. I don't worry too much about these things.

[Daves]

While the DSR column shows whole numbers, the played to column varies, sometimes my 36 points gives different "played to" values, so I am assuming the actual DSR figure is 71.3 one week and 70.8 the next. I think. I don't worry too much about these things.

The DSR would be calculated to a decimal, but I am not sure if they round it up/down or not in the calculation?. I had assumed that the played to decimal was because your slope handicap is calculated to decimal points ( it shows on our leaderboards to 2 decimals). But it maybe the result of both I guess. Makes sense to have a DSR calculated to a decimal point at least, if you are going to go to the trouble of calculating one.

[LeftyHoges]

The DSR would be calculated to a decimal, but I am not sure if they round it up/down or not in the calculation?. I had assumed that the played to decimal was because your slope handicap is calculated to decimal points ( it shows on our leaderboards to 2 decimals). But it maybe the result of both I guess. Makes sense to have a DSR calculated to a decimal point at least, if you are going to go to the trouble of calculating one.

I can verify that the decimal is meaningless in regards to rounding. My GolfLink has a score with a played to 4.2, gross of 80, so actual full DSR is 75.8, yet GolfLink still shows as DSR of 75.

[Johnny Canuck]

I reckon you've hit the nail on the head there. I was trying to work out why I tended to do better on cored greens, despite hating putting on them. On normal greens, I struggle to stop the ball from rolling off when chipping, and the cored greens will do that. You can then compensate for the cored greens when putting just by hitting it harder - even choppers can do that.

The DSR at my course has been 70 since coring where is it normally 72-73.

The hackers are killing it on the slower greens.

Comps are normally won with around 40 points. This past weekend we had 45 narrowly beating 44. 35 points had you finishing as low as 65th.

[aussieashley]

I'm pretty sure the DSR is a whole number.
Your "Played To" should equal:
(Adjusted Gross less DSR) x (113/Slope Rating)

I think that is then rounded up or down to 1 decimal place.

[IanO]

I can't work out how they do the handicapping system here is the Czech Republic. If you play higher than you handicap you go out 0.1 shots, however, if you have a good round they use the normal calculation based on your best 8 (I think) rounds out of the last 20. If you are playing crap for a long time the worst you can do is go out 0.1 per game, but a couple of good rounds can really lower your handicap.

[oldracer]

Down 7 strokes in two weeks which seems a lot to me, not sure to hip hip hooray or not, quickly getting to one of my goals which is always a plus I guess