Cricket 2014/15

[mrbluu]

Haddin surely has a couple of credits in the bank after he basically saved the ashes (so that Johnson could win them) nine months ago. He batted in the same manner too, but nobody complains when it works.

Here's hoping we can somehow cobble together another 50 or more - it's looking a little bit bleak.

Exactly. It came off heaps recently and oh i better evise my opinion blah blah and as soon as he gets out a couple of times blah blah why did he do this why did he do that. News flash - it's the way he bats. Nothing has changed since his Ashes heroics.

I agree with the credit points and the ashes. Still having a slap at one first over of the new ball is a little too reckless for my liking. If we were 7down, sure go ahead, but he was in a recognised batsman.

[LarryLong]

I agree with the credit points and the ashes. Still having a slap at one first over of the new ball is a little too reckless for my liking. If we were 7down, sure go ahead, but he was in a recognised batsman.

I didn't see it, but I reckon I can close my eyes and imagine it pretty easily.

I guess he figured Johnson had this one covered anyway. Sounds like he's seeing them pretty well.

[TheNuclearOne]

I agree with the credit points and the ashes. Still having a slap at one first over of the new ball is a little too reckless for my liking. If we were 7down, sure go ahead, but he was in a recognised batsman.

It's what he does. Not sure how anyone could not have worked that out by now. In a good position or bad if it's there to be hit he hits. Blocking around and gettin bogged down isn't what Haddin does and it's odds on he's better off for it.

[mrbluu]

It's what he does. Not sure how anyone could not have worked that out by now. In a good position or bad if it's there to be hit he hits. Blocking around and gettin bogged down isn't what Haddin does and it's odds on he's better off for it.

I think you are as defensive of Haddin as I am critical.

Also I think Siddle should be batting below Lyons and O'Keefe....thoughts???

[TheNuclearOne]

You pounce on Haddin like a fat kid (who hasn't eaten for 3 days) on a cupcake

Siddles on an extended bad run so his batting spot is up in the air. Would not have put O'Keefe above him on debut tho.

[backintheswing]

I have seen O'keefe open for NSW in the shorter stuff. Fairly good bat for a no. 10

[mrbluu]

You pounce on Haddin like a fat kid (who hasn't eaten for 3 days) on a cupcake

Siddles on an extended bad run so his batting spot is up in the air. Would not have put O'Keefe above him on debut tho.

This is that match that pissed me off about Haddin. Tight game, we were odds on to win and he decided that he need to see continuously throw his bat at swinging balls outside off stump. Its fine being a flashy or positive player and a great talent but he has no idea about game situations.

Go to the 11:25.
http://New Zealand vs Australia 2nd ...be/E_ZrCTmlvQ0


This video doesn't show it, but he played and missed about 6 and 7 ball prior.

[TheNuclearOne]

You still don't get him, and you're not going to.

[mrbluu]

You still don't get him, and you're not going to.

I get him, he is a poor mans version of Gilchrist without the control and game awareness!!!

[jimandr]

Disappointing batting performance by the Aussies, Warner excepted. Almost every bat looked comfortable until they got out, even the bowlers.

The pitch isn't playing any tricks, so I think we can still draw the game, but we have a bit of a history of not being able to play out for a day and a half. Other teams seems to be able to do it against us, though. I don't think they'll set us a target we can get. 500 minimum, I'd say, at about tea tomorrow.

[TheNuclearOne]

I get him, he is a poor mans version of Gilchrist without the control and game awareness!!!

You are holding him to Gilchrists level? A once in a lifetime player? One of the biggest match winners in the history of cricket? I definitely get the picture now.

[TheNuclearOne]

Disappointing batting performance by the Aussies, Warner excepted. Almost every bat looked comfortable until they got out, even the bowlers.

The pitch isn't playing any tricks, so I think we can still draw the game, but we have a bit of a history of not being able to play out for a day and a half. Other teams seems to be able to do it against us, though. I don't think they'll set us a target we can get. 500 minimum, I'd say, at about tea tomorrow.

It was disappointing alright Jim, especially given Pakistan are missing their best three bowlers. As you said, the pitch is holding up quite fine. Only two players have put their hand up for us thus far in the game. If it starts to break up and spin a bit on the 5th day we could be in some trouble. Even if it doesn't we still might be LOL

[AndyP]

Haddin didn't build up credits for his batting in the Ashes. That just got him even for the shit beforehand.

[mrbluu]

Haddin didn't build up credits for his batting in the Ashes. That just got him even for the shit beforehand.

Well put Andy!!!

[Buzz]

He averages 35 in tests which historically is more than adequate for a keeper. Point the finger at the top six bar Warner if you want to critique Australia's total IMO.

[TheNuclearOne]

Warner 3 tons in a row in Tests, Aussie record 4.

[Wardy101]

Warner 3 tons in a row in Tests, Aussie record 4.

And the record will survive. Warner gone for 29

[TheNuclearOne]

And the record will survive. Warner gone for 29

And a few others. We are presently woeful on sub continent pitches. We are also fragile when the ball reverses and anyone saying different has the blinkers on. Our batting comes off enough at home and on pitches like our own fortunately, but we are as stiff and rigid as a honeymooners member elsewhere. Our two more natural players of spin are both gorn. It's only a popgun attack too.

[TheNuclearOne]

40 years since a batsman made two tons in a test against us. 66 years since we have successfully chased 400+.

[Buzz]

It baffles me though how we can play perfectly good ODI cricket on the same tracks.

[markTHEblake]

And a few others. We are presently woeful on sub continent pitches.

And Middle East too

[TheNuclearOne]

And Middle East too

[TheNuclearOne]

It baffles me though how we can play perfectly good ODI cricket on the same tracks.

Maybe the batting mindset has a little to do with it. They also crowd the bat for spinners in Tests more i'd guess.

[Buzz]

I of course understand the different approaches, and yes it is a white ball vs a red ball, but the conditions are fundamentally the same.

For mine, Clarke is the main worry. As the Australians have repeatedly said and done over the years, if you target and get on top of the captain, then you go a long way towards being the dominant team. I don't think there's any doubt that Clarke's fitness struggles are affecting his form and while I'm not advocating he has to be scoring all the runs, he's clearly their main man and when he battles the Aussies do not look the same side.

Khawaja must be cursing the finger injury becuase his domestic form would have put his name right back on the page too I think for the home matches.

[TheNuclearOne]

I of course understand the different approaches, and yes it is a white ball vs a red ball, but the conditions are fundamentally the same.

For mine, Clarke is the main worry. As the Australians have repeatedly said and done over the years, if you target and get on top of the captain, then you go a long way towards being the dominant team. I don't think there's any doubt that Clarke's fitness struggles are affecting his form and while I'm not advocating he has to be scoring all the runs, he's clearly their main man and when he battles the Aussies do not look the same side.

Khawaja must be cursing the finger injury becuase his domestic form would have put his name right back on the page too I think for the home matches.

Clarke's runs seem to have dried up for now and he's our lynch pin for sure. Totally agree injuries have ravaged his output. Be interesting with Kwaka, i wonder if he's still on the outer a bit as i believe Hughes is despite being there. They seem very reluctant to add him. Doolan should get the next Test but another pair of failures might have him looking over his shoulder. To be fair no-one except Warner has stood up so far and conditions will be vastly different over here and other places.