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Carry on.
There was a bloke on SundayNight last night whose daughter was dying of cancer. Now, he was religious and stated 'if God wants her to live, she will live...if God wants her to go with him, she will go with him and I am fine with that'. He rejected calls from doctors to get her the treatment she needed and went down the prayer and natural remedy route, she sadly passed away...my question, if you are so insanely religious that you completely dismiss science why can you not see that God created these doctors and scientists and medicine? - He created everything else, right? Why not medicine, doctors and scientists?
I simply do not understand
Live4, your making far too much scene.
That, to me, is just another form of religious extremism. Blinded by faith, to the point that it overrules his love and compassion for his own daughter and the pain she must have been going through. It's really really sad
Personally I was always brought up to believe God helps those who helps themselves.... nothing wrong with using the best medical technology available (within ethical boundaries... eg no black market organs, etc etc).
You are of course assuming that she was guaranteed of being cured if she got that treatment, right?
Now Blakey says "Where did I say they did?"
Just wondering how any 'God' has helped those girls kidnapped in Nigeria?
the article quotes doctors as giving her a 50% chance of surviving. The parents preferred to use their cultures natural remedy, which is a very common thing. That has nothing to do with any religion, it was their cultural influence, which may well precede their religion by a millenia or more. Nowhere in the story does it say that they were relying on 'divine intervention'
another media beatup, and you lot fell for it.
then why did you try to speak for everyone.
Where is the quote you are referring to? The specific quote from L4G (that I was referring to) was about the father trusting in God and prayer to save their daughter instead of modern medicine, not 'cultural influence' though in this case it amounts to effectively the same thing anyway.
Search on "tamar stitt" its all over the internet
https://au.news.yahoo.com/sunday-nig...f-tamar-stitt/
So in other words you accept what he says - good, see below for what he says.
But that doesnt mean it is the reason he refused the chemotherapy. Neither Sunday Tonight nor any of the numerous news articles, nor a blog from the Australian Skeptics society (athiests), not even the ABC have made the link that he refused treatment because of his faith or that it was Gods will. If he did the media would have been all over it in a big way, given how anti-theist they are, especially Aunty.
No its not a fact at all, plenty of people rely on natural remedies and its nothing to do with a religion. Chinese Medicine is a good example of that.The Fact that he relied on natural remedies was due to his faith...
Here is a fact from an article in the media
Plenty of people refuse chemotherapy for the same reason. This story is all about the issue of parents deciding for a child, and the hospital disputing that right, its nothing to do with religion.http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/west...-1226799246452
During the Supreme Court hearing in September 2009, Mr Stitt, an anaesthetic technician, said his daughter's doctor had initially told them she would have a 30 per cent chance of survival with the aggressive drug treatment.
It was reported that doctors had given her a 50 to 60 per cent chance of survival.
He said because of this, and other side effects, he decided it would not be in Tamar's best interest to receive chemotherapy.
I lied, there is no media beat up.Silly us for falling for the media beat up
Last edited by markTHEblake; 13th May 2014 at 07:55 PM.
Feeling so safe in the Melbourne airport. It is guarded by ninjas.
I bet there's some hot ankles under there, lucky they're covered.
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