Full swing feels

[adamsgolfer]

Will a proper full turn swing feel more like a punch shot to those of us who are overswingers (arm overun)?

[Dangals]

Will a proper full turn swing feel more like a punch shot to those of us who are overswingers (arm overun)?

to me it felt more like a 75-80% swing rather than a punch - but the feeling each person will have is likely to be different

[Peppas]

to me it felt more like a 75-80% swing rather than a punch - but the feeling each person will have is likely to be different

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[adamsgolfer]

Yeah I'm trying to find the right feel...

Does the 80% swing get you same or more distance as your full blown overswing? I think that subconsciously I have a hard time believing that a shorter swing will give me the distance.

[mrbluu]

Swings with new clubs always feel better, especially if you paid full price on OG!!+

[Dangals]

Yeah I'm trying to find the right feel...

Does the 80% swing get you same or more distance as your full blown overswing? I think that subconsciously I have a hard time believing that a shorter swing will give me the distance.

I found that with the shorter swing my contact was better and therefore distance was either the same or better as a result

[markTHEblake]

I have found that when anyone says they made a deliberately 'short' swing that ti looked little difference to their full one. the old classic "3/4 swing" is more like 95%, which is why most choppers would be better off swinging that way all the time. but ego doesnt let us

[razaar]

If the arm backswing is too long it means that the arms are outpacing the torso early. The backswing sequence should be the trail knee comes to a stop in the takeaway. Followed by the right hip, then the ribcage which brings the left shoulder to a sudden stop followed by the right shoulder which retracts against the rib cage. The hands are next followed by the clubhead which extends the right wrist back on the forearm.
The length of the backswing is controlled by how much the right thigh muscle allows the right hip to twist on the backswing. The hip twist controls the ribcage coil and shoulder turn.
The arm swing is controlled by the forearms and the right elbow. The forearms control the rotation of the clubface and the right elbow unites both arms to act as a single unit. The right elbow also acts as a govener for the arms by staying close to the left elbow and pointing towards the ground during the upswing.

[gotitat last]

just recently,i have discovered a way to set up that allows me to use my whole left shoulder to totally control my plane,and basically take the complication out of the swing.you could describe it as being a "hybrid" reverse pivot effect,but we do it instinctively in mainly backhand tennis shots with the left arm.what i have found is that the upper part of spine actually is tilted fractionally to the left,but the rest of the spine is straight.if you then,hold that same slight tilt in a golf setup,the head will be in the middle of stance,but the shoulders will be the only thing that makes us appear to be sloping to the right.then,you just push the left shoulder down around your upper horizontal spine,just imagining a quarter circle to the right.sounds crazy i know-but it works.

[3oneday]

Cool

[Yossarian]

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[virge666]

Why not start at the follow through and work you way backwards . . .

if you r follow through is balanced and feels good - swing it back to the top of your backswing...

There is also some great drills from Martin Ayers to get a feel for the top of the backswing.

[JADO75]

just recently,i have discovered a way to set up that allows me to use my whole left shoulder to totally control my plane,and basically take the complication out of the swing.you could describe it as being a "hybrid" reverse pivot effect,but we do it instinctively in mainly backhand tennis shots with the left arm.what i have found is that the upper part of spine actually is tilted fractionally to the left,but the rest of the spine is straight.if you then,hold that same slight tilt in a golf setup,the head will be in the middle of stance,but the shoulders will be the only thing that makes us appear to be sloping to the right.then,you just push the left shoulder down around your upper horizontal spine,just imagining a quarter circle to the right.sounds crazy i know-but it works.

You love your tennis mate, most important question is Venus or Serena?

[gotitat last]

jado- i don't really like huge muscular black women with massive ugly behinds and quads even though they really should be playing with the men.then again,they could probably scare them too.that"s why women's tennis is a bit one sided.could you imagine these 2 female gorillas playing golf.
i don"t call what they got as talent,but just unfair advantage .

[backintheswing]

just recently,i have discovered a way to set up that allows me to use my whole left shoulder to totally control my plane,and basically take the complication out of the swing.you could describe it as being a "hybrid" reverse pivot effect,but we do it instinctively in mainly backhand tennis shots with the left arm.what i have found is that the upper part of spine actually is tilted fractionally to the left,but the rest of the spine is straight.if you then,hold that same slight tilt in a golf setup,the head will be in the middle of stance,but the shoulders will be the only thing that makes us appear to be sloping to the right.then,you just push the left shoulder down around your upper horizontal spine,just imagining a quarter circle to the right.sounds crazy i know-but it works.

Can you put up a video of your swing, so I can see what you are trying to explain.

[talbo]

This video makes a lot of sense, talks about arm overun approx 3 minutes in



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgwNEpvQQqE

[Hatchman]

This video makes a lot of sense, talks about arm overun approx 3 minutes in



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgwNEpvQQqE

Found this one quite interesting.
After watching the vid and thinking about the battles I'm having with the swing atm, especially the driver separation of the arms is most likely right on the money.

[gotitat last]

backintheswing-i may have already given too much away,as i am actually trying to get sponsorship for a series of you tube clips.once i get it all sorted ,i will inform ozgolf members. my apologies for the anticipated delay,but the wait makes it all worthwhile-if someone came up with what i have discovered just recently during my long and arduous endeavors in golf,i probably would be on the pro circuit,but now it is too late as i am in my senior years.

[razaar]

Can you put up a video of your swing, so I can see what you are trying to explain.

What he is referring to is left lateral bend of the upper spine during a full backswing, but the spine has to be in lordosis. If I you do a search on spine engine in the golf swing you will get the drift. It is really basic stuff.

[JADO75]

backintheswing-i may have already given too much away,as i am actually trying to get sponsorship for a series of you tube clips.once i get it all sorted ,i will inform ozgolf members. my apologies for the anticipated delay,but the wait makes it all worthwhile-if someone came up with what i have discovered just recently during my long and arduous endeavors in golf,i probably would be on the pro circuit,but now it is too late as i am in my senior years.

How old is senior?

[Hard_Pan]

Thanks for that video Talbo! I'm going to try that at the range this week.

My problem is lateral hip slide and no release, (especially with driver), causing pushes to the right. Everything I try to do either doesn't help (i.e. still go right), or causes duck hooks - and lately, the unmentionable s word!

[Hatchman]

Thanks for that video Talbo! I'm going to try that at the range this week.

My problem is lateral hip slide and no release, (especially with driver), causing pushes to the right. Everything I try to do either doesn't help (i.e. still go right), or causes duck hooks - and lately, the unmentionable s word!

Shanks are funny

We have a thread for it and all http://www.ozgolf.net/showthread.php/29824-Shanks-by-OZgolfers

You must check in if you've had one.

[gotitat last]

How old is senior?

senior for me is 60.that"s why i suggest two types of golf swing to cater for all levels of age and physical shortcomings.i personally find the method that i haven"t actually mentioned as being more comfortable for me to use at this stage,but the strange part is that distance and accuracy are not affected.the only problem is that purists of the bag scoff at this idea even though after 18 holes using it,i am ready for another 18 as the swing is effortless and easy on the body.

[Micdeez]

For a chopper like me, I have been practising 3/4 swings to ensure that I am squaring the face and basically getting the best smash factor on swings.
My coach had covered this during my last lesson, suggesting to keep my left foot planted and "quiet" which should eliminate any over swings.

At this stage, I have only been practising on an umbrella I found in the hotel room so this is all I can do right now whilst I'm in Darwin

Oh yeah, and I have been reading Ben Hogan's 5 Lessons. Seems like a great read so far! $5.99 at the App Store.

[gotitat last]

Micdeez-i have found out literally by accident that squaring the face has nothing to do with swinging,chopping,left foot planting or 3/4 swinging.all of these problems and so called antidotes can be eliminated automatically if you understand what the "true" grip should be,and i am not talking the usual mumbo jumbo that"s on offer out there in golf, quick fixit land.basically,if you "understand" the concept that the left hand grip is a fixed unit with the wrists and forearm muscles(not biceps and triceps), it"s almost impossible to chop.another advantage is you can have a grip pressure anywhere between 1 to 10,and it still works,but i wouldn"t recommend 10 unless you are in long grass,as 18 holes would be uncomfortable.