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    Default Considering joining club in Melbourne

    They’re trying to cater for an International market; problem is most rich yanks will play RM, KH then move onto Barnbougle or King Island with the limited time they have.

    They need better incentives for the local interstate visitor/green fee player market to make the business model have a consistent flow of income, rather than relying on rich people to pay exorbitant prices. Australia does not have the economy of China, Japan or the USA and most of the wealthy golfers here will play interstate on reciprocal


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    I love the place but the price point is maybe not quite right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by petethepilot View Post
    SH, that could be because it is too hard for any lady other than a very accomplished player!
    I watched a lady get around there without any more trouble than the rest of the choppers in her group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3Puttpete View Post
    I watched a lady get around there without any more trouble than the rest of the choppers in her group.
    Her bunker shot on 18 was magnificent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mezzanotte View Post
    Hi all, looking for some advice on clubs to join in Melbourne. I tend to play 2 times a week (would like to make it 3), with 1-2 times per week on the range mixed in. I've been thinking it may make more financial sense for me to join a club. I generally play on the weekend, but am getting out more early mornings on weekdays.

    So far, I've considered, in general order of driving distance from me: Yarra Yarra, Spring Valley, Churchill-Waverley, Rosanna, Southern GC, Woodlands, Cardinia Beaconhills, Settler's Run, Gardiner's Run, Yering Meadows and Eastern GC.

    Seems Yarra Yarra, Rosanna and Woodlands are pretty expensive for me ($10k+ joining fees, but I'm not 100% sure about that or their annual subscriptions). Rosanna seems nice, but its membership application process is a bit opaque, plus I'd really prefer to avoid the 'mudbelt' (assuming its regarded as part of the 'mudbelt'). I heard Woodlands' waiting list is really long. Churchill-Waverley has ugly powerlines going over it. Cardinia Beaconhills, Settler's Run and Gardiner's Run all seem nice, but a bit far at 45-60 mins drive for me. Heard Yering Meadows has a gun club next door, which is distracting. Recently heard bad things about Eastern GC's course design.

    I know there are plenty of exclusive, expensive Sandbelt clubs I've left out, like Commonwealth, Metro, Capital, Victoria, RMGC, Huntingdale and Kingston Heath. I'm obviously just not sure about their actual fees (joining and annual), membership process and waiting lists.

    This has kind of left me with Spring Valley and Southern GC, which seem to be decent 2nd/3rd tier Sandbelt courses reasonably close to me. I've heard their waiting lists are not that crushing.

    Spring Valley's joining fee is $6000 and 7-day membership currently ranges from $4019 - $5024 p.a. I know from one of Spring Valley's annual reports that some of its land has recently been acquired by the local council, but planning maps show it won't likely affect the layout or holes (it seems the acquisition just partly cuts into a track of trees). It's been acquired as part of the council's redevelopment of the of the old adjacent rubbish tip as part of the Sandbelt Parkland project.

    Southern GC's joining fee is apparently $2000 and 7-day membership ranges from $3055 - $3760 p.a. Unfortunately, their range is very short, so no driving allowed.

    For me, I'd prioritise a club with good practice facilities and decent course conditions (doesn't have to be incredible).

    What I'd like help with is understanding:
    (1) how people rate the above courses/facilities;
    (2) how people make the most of their memberships (beyond playing as regularly as possible);
    (3) how important club practice facilities to you are;
    (4) how important travel time to and from your club is to you;
    (5) if any of the things I've heard about the above clubs are wrong/misconceptions;
    (6) if I should consider any other clubs; and
    (7) anything else I should know or try to find out about clubs?

    Cheers all.

    Hey mate,
    I heard of this thread from the boys at the Vic Champs earlier in the week... here are my 2 cents
    I have been a member a Southern, Spring Valley, Keysie and am now at Yarra Yarra.

    Yarra Yarra:
    Excellent course (8/10) and an even better club (10/10). The most welcoming membership I have met.
    Practice facilities are probably the only failing of the club, the range is a bit short and sometimes they make it irons only. But given what I have seen in a year of being a member, it is being worked on and will be fixed soon. I dont know of a timeline though and it is not of huge importance to me given I dont practice much.
    Clubhouse is well visited on most comp days with 20cent banter happening thursday and saturday. I felt a strong sense to "my club" within a month of joining up. Proshop and clubhouse staff are top notch.
    Timesheets are pretty full on but most people get a spot even if its via the waitlist.
    Last I checked, joining fee for 35+ is $12K and 7 day subs are $5700.
    I'd be happy to have you over for a hit and introduce you around if you are keen.

    Keysie:
    Pretty decent course layout and conditions (7/10)
    Very good "working- mans" club, friendly membership.
    I enjoyed my 2.5 years at Keysie and only left because a friend asked me to join YY with him.

    Spring Valley:
    Decent course layout but in the ~1.5 years that I was there, it was not in decent enough shape often enough.
    I did not find any discernible membership camaraderie whatsoever, hardly anyone stayed for a drink after the round.
    Would not recommend anyone join there if you want to be part of a golf club but it might suit you if you only want to play golf.

    Southern:
    Was there for ~2 years. The course is always in decent shape and I thought was good VFM.
    There was not much in terms of camaraderie within the members except for the cliques that have been playing together for years.
    Depending on how much you pay, its decent VFM for the money if playing golf is your first priority.

    Reach out if you want to chat more.....

    Cheers,
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    Good summary there by MM. His comments about YY are why you join a good club rather than a golf course. If u r 35, you should check out junior programs (if u have kids). All the good clubs have very cheap rates for kids to join and excellent junior programs. The club becomes a destination for the family rather than a Dad guilt trip taking up 6 hours on a Saturday or Sunday!
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    Join YY, simples


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    Krish, this is the type of detail this chat needed + the four clubs I've been researching. Bravo

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    Quote Originally Posted by thecollective View Post
    Does not surprise me, what was the accommodation like guys? Heard rumors that it’s pretty ordinary for the price


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    is that back in the bands room after a Village People concert?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeftyHoges View Post


    Luxurious...
    Indeed, while we are on the topic which one of you here did a Steven Bradbury?

    Last in line but came first


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    Hi mate,

    I recently joined Southern GC (2 years ago) and had a similar array of courses on my shortlist. I'm in Moorabbin and wanted somewhere within 15 mins.

    Yarra Yarra was extremely appealing but as I'd only just started getting back into golf after a few years hiatus/playing irregularly I wasn't sure about going all out on the 10k joining fee.

    Woodlands, I'd heard mixed reviews from people was a little dubious - again $8750 joining fee was a little off putting and hard to justify with the wife.

    Spring Valley gave me a bit of a run around, stating they didn't have any 7 day memberships available but I could go on the waitlist for a fee plus a 5k joining fee.

    Keysie put me on their waitlist and also mentioned they were introducing a joining fee.

    Southern got back to me with their availability, the General Manager was great and slotted me in on a Saturday morning to play the course. Played quite poorly but really enjoyed the course and the company so decided to join. Haven't regretted it once in the past two years. Met some great blokes now that I play regularly with as a group. The course has had a fair bit of work since I've joined, all which has improved it and I find it challenging enough and enjoyable to play week in week out which is a must. The greens are sensational. The few downsides are: bunkers are poor, practice facilities are short (irons only) but they're adding a Trackman booth shortly when they renovate the locker rooms. Camaraderie is good, there's always a fair few in the members bar after the round.

    On to a few of your questions...

    What I'd like help with is understanding:

    (1) how people rate the above courses/facilities;

    Southerns facilities are very nice without being over the top. As mentioned, they're renovating the locker room in the next few months. The member bar is great and they have a huge function room. The course is in great nick after the recent reno's. As mentioned, bunkers poor but green are sensational.

    (2) how people make the most of their memberships (beyond playing as regularly as possible);

    Get involved in the community. Friday nights in Summer they have 9 and Dine, Cocktail Party coming up, Kids get free membership and access to free clinics on the weekend.

    (3) how important club practice facilities to you are;

    Initially I thought, a lot - but now I rarely practice to be honest.

    (4) how important travel time to and from your club is to you;

    For me, essential. 15 mins or less.


    Happy to host you for a round down at Southern so you can get a feel for it one day. Please just reach out.

    Good luck on your choice and happy golfing!




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    I’m just concerned that it looks like they all got in/out of the spa together!

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    Travel time really matters.
    Any Sandbelt golf is better than 85% of sydney golf.
    All very good clubs cost a premium.
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    Quote Originally Posted by petethepilot View Post
    Any Sandbelt golf is better than 85% of sydney golf.
    How about comparing Albert Park to Brisbane/SEQ golf?
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    Blakey, albert park is a bit of exercise (and not in the sandbelt). The new Sandy Public golf course is in the sandbelt and very good golf (although not long).
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    Quote Originally Posted by petethepilot View Post
    Blakey, albert park is a bit of exercise (and not in the sandbelt). The new Sandy Public golf course is in the sandbelt and very good golf (although not long).
    Theres a reason I mentioned Albert Park - perspective.

    I learnt to play golf on what would be considered very ordinary golf courses by any standard.. i havent even seen courses again like it was in SEQ back in the 80's, even the worst par 3 public courses around the place today are way better. But thats what you have when small towns build golf courses by hand on mudflats.

    Dad took me to Melbourne in 1982 and I played where he learned golf, Woodlands, Victoria and Long Island. Suffice to say that was an education. I couldnt understand how I could have got backspin, without making a piug mark! Anyhow, early on in that trip, before I played golf,we passed by a golf course in the car, and i am like "wow, what course is this" (thinking it might have been RM), and the old man laughs his head off and says thats Albert Park.

    So at one point, Albert Park was the best golf course I had ever seen in my life.

    You blokes down south are very fortunate!
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    Quote Originally Posted by markTHEblake View Post
    You blokes down south are very fortunate!
    It's exactly why we don't tolerate ****ing morons saying Cape Wickham is the best course in Australia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeftyHoges View Post
    It's exactly why we don't tolerate ****ing morons saying Cape Wickham is the best course in Australia.
    Cape Wickham is downer south than the sandbelt

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeftyHoges View Post
    It's exactly why we don't tolerate ****ing morons saying Cape Wickham is the best course in Australia.
    ‘We’? Cairns isn’t down south from much.
    Cinderella story, out of nowhere, former greenskeeper, now about to become a Masters champion..... It looks like a mirac.. It's in the hole! It's in the hole!


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    Quote Originally Posted by 3Puttpete View Post
    Cape Wickham is downer south than the sandbelt
    Don't think that I don't see what you're doing, asswipe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Burgundy View Post
    ‘We’? Cairns isn’t down south from much.
    Have to defend our territory against those dickheads from Weipa, Darwin and.....


    ....Drysdale River.


 

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