Virge's Swing.

[markTHEblake]

who would have thought Virges swing would result in a little popper

[virge666]

Yeah, sad hey. My dad knew him and I used to play with in the magistrate social as a young fella.

I was getting coached by Don before I went away.



Virge, I am back seeing Gary. Honestly could listen to him all day. I have my first lesson up on his website from a couple years ago. I have just had a few months of renovating and we just had a little popper. Back into the grind again while I am on leave. Have the lefts at the moment but that is a trust issue

Such awesome news on all fronts... The best thing I like about Gary is that the swing methodology hasn't changed in 25 years - it is the same thing, on point, endlessly. there are not many coaches who do the same thing and they seem to rotate to anything that seems to be fashionable on Instagram.

[virge666]

This changing golf swing shit is really hard. Just saying...

[markTHEblake]

This changing golf swing shit is really hard. Just saying...

Its like trying to change your gait. Easy in practice but weinstinctively go back to the old way when not focussed on it. I am gonna get a lesson from https://instagram.com/colinmccarthygolf soon. If you havent seen him, worth checking out. he is very big on coaching the right way for the body ( and the individuals mind) and not any method. Its all very interesting.

[virge666]

Its like trying to change your gait. Easy in practice but weinstinctively go back to the old way when not focussed on it. I am gonna get a lesson from https://instagram.com/colinmccarthygolf soon. If you havent seen him, worth checking out. he is very big on coaching the right way for the body ( and the individuals mind) and not any method. Its all very interesting.

The problem you have with changing coaches is that everything changes. Am too old for that.

The problem i have is that i am an idiot for not picking something so stupidly basic up in 4 months of practice. Like pointing my shoulders down the target line.

Sigh.

[virge666]

Heading up to QLD on the 2nd through 4th March to the Glades to sort it out.
Video not bad.. but for $50 flights... screw it.

Plus - staying in "elite athlete" accommodation . . . so i have that going for me.

[markTHEblake]

Catch up for a beer or something? Friday good for me.

[virge666]

Catch up for a beer or something? Friday good for me.

Cheers mate - got stuck actually doing work and had to keep going which sucks..

but if the flights get cancelled tomorrow,, will pm you !

[virge666]

And for those playing at home... 3 hours with Gary Edwin and his son Luke.. wait to you see that changes..

Holy Shit.

[markTHEblake]

Cheers mate - got stuck actually doing work and had to keep going which sucks.. but if the flights get cancelled tomorrow,, will pm you !

Ha. i aint working tomorrow so i am free. I am also a member or the indoor trackman joint here if you are addicted to more numbers

[virge666]

OK so back home and on the trackman...
Mizuno JPX850 forged, Project LZ in 6.0 or stiff or whatever weakened by one degree.


Before I left...
7 iron - 143-147m, couple higher and a couple lower. best was about 152.

2 lessons with Gary and Luke. 5 hours total.
7 Iron - 157-161m, again, couple higher and lower, 171 is about maxed out.

Whilst there - SIM Max iron.. not the OS. KBS iron shaft in Stiff.. I think it was some 85 model.
7 Iron - 171-179m.

Who would have thought.. Club choice and lessons do help ! Just under 40m difference in a 7 Iron.

[Matt 3 Jab]

Sim max 7 iron is 28.5°

850 is 32

However, was it compression, spin loft or speed holding you back??

[virge666]

Sim max 7 iron is 28.5°

850 is 32

However, was it compression, spin loft or speed holding you back??

28 degrees.. Geezuz isnt that a five iron ?

AoA, launch and spin rate - all got a LOT better after some lessons. Same sort of clubhead speed, just way better mechanics.

[BobsYourUncle]

28 degrees.. Geezuz isnt that a five iron ?

AoA, launch and spin rate - all got a LOT better after some lessons. Same sort of clubhead speed, just way better mechanics.

There is some argument to be made that with the newer technology in those sorts of irons, you still get a similar launch angle, flight & descent angle to a "7 iron" (what ever that is) - although generally with less spin. On the other hand, I think a large part of it is because it helps manufacturers convince people to upgrade because their "7 iron" goes further with new clubs.

I have a 35 degree 7 iron, maybe I should go down to Drummonds and see how far a sim max 7 would go for me? But then I'd need a couple of extra wedges... People do get fixated on the number on the club, and want to be hitting less club than their friends.

You're right though, lower lofts & better tech only help so much, most people are better off improving their swing as you say.

[markTHEblake]

People do get fixated on the number on the club, and want to be hitting less club than their friends.

You are on the money with all of that. But i there is something else other than just the number. 8 iron up is a different shape head, wedges even more so. The idiocy of this trend is we will soon have 7 wedges in a bag and no 'irons"

[virge666]

.. vids not working

[virge666]

I spent 4 days with Gary and Luke Edwin last week. Had my lesson which i will post up the differences from Day 1 to 4 just for a laugh.

I also watched them teach a few other guys during the week and what really struck me was how important setup was and the direction of the initial turn is, whether you are right sided like me or left sided or whatever pattern.

I honestly cant tell you how important it is - They turn up and went from ok to awesome just by changing those two things. Had a tour pro's come is as well. Luke shared some videos showing bits and pieces for comparison.. it was eye opening, like proper, adult, "thats it" kind of stuff.

So if your struggling with impact.. get those two right first and the rest seems a lot easier.

And for the record.. took two days for me to get it 70% sorted, just that boring setup and takeaway !!