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    Default Statistic Averages for a range of handicaps

    Here is a range of Stats for different handicaps, might help some of you golfing tragics determine whether your game is up to speed or not.

    I got this info from a Stats program that I used to use. I understand that there is thousands of rounds included in these stats, including the British National squad, so they are fairly authentic.

    Even though its on the UK system its fairly comparable to my stats so its a handy benchmark, and the only stats that get out of a trendline is the Sand saves for the high handicappers. I'd say that they didnt get many numbers in that range.



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    * DC is Darren Clarkes target stats.
    * Par Saves is the % of Par made after missing GIR, it is not chipping Up and Down stat, which is obviously going to be much different.
    * first four handicaps are +

    BTW this stats program is several years abandoned, and unfortunately has an 8 round limitation, and has a challenge/response registration method. Anyone around here skilled in reverse engineering/hacking a borland db application?

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    Last edited by markTHEblake; 30th September 2007 at 06:37 PM. Reason: I have updated the spreadsheet to include funky graphs
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    Last edited by Ducky; 31st October 2007 at 05:14 PM.

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    the graphs in the attached spreadsheet wont display the correct label for the horizontal axis.
    it numbers from 1-32 instead of from the data table -4 to 27

    peteyd, please fix

    ( i removed the spreadsheet, i wanna get Pete to secure it)
    Last edited by markTHEblake; 28th September 2007 at 01:54 PM.
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    When I first looked at that I didn't realise it was percentages and thought to myself "12 GIRS!!! What is this guy smoking? I'm off 21 and would stain my pants if I hit 12 GIRs" Instead that turns into 5 fairways, 2 GIRs and 1/4 par saves. I see where my scores fall apart.

    I reasonable round for me is 10 fairways and 6 GIRs - but I burn short game shots like they are going out of fashion. It can be nice to have something you believe born out in the stats.
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    Bruce, thats what can help you with these stats, i know that they are genuine and they balance, as the participants in the original program were very serious about it.

    I have seen a lot of free for all stats on websites and the data is really corrupted very badly, its so obvious.

    What you can gain from these figues, is that if your GIR's are high in comparison, there is something caomparatively weak in putting or chipping by about the same number of affected shots per round.

    and if your stats are above average in all areas, your lying....
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    Excellent stats for comparison..... confirms what I already knew.... my short game sux a$$....
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    Yeah, good info there MTB. Makes me realise just how much my putting sux.

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    good info, thanks. Youve confirmed for me that it's my piss-poor scrambling that lets me down. I was surprised that my other stats weren't that bad.

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    The best way to view your stats is not by looking at the numbers or %, but rather just look at the equivalent handicap standard you are achieving. Its easy to get lost in the numbers, right Grunt ?

    Write down your own Stat Category, and then beside each one write down handicap it is equal to.

    For example here are mine for 2007

    FW - 4
    GIR - 4
    Putts - 3
    Putts GIR - 2.5
    Saves - 23
    Sand - 30+

    obviously i need to work on my Bunker Play and my low Par Saves indicate that when I miss a shot, i get into a lot of trouble

    NB: Par Saves is % Par made after missing Green. It is not a Chipping up and down Stat.
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    How is it that a 21/22 capper makes more SS than a 19/20 capper ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by jarro View Post
    How is it that a 21/22 capper makes more SS than a 19/20 capper ??
    Because they end up in bunkers more often? Therefore more practice getting out of them I suppose.

    My stats for the last 22 rounds, and during that time I've gone from a 24 to a 22 handicap:

    Total Rounds 22
    Total Courses Played 17
    Total Rounds 18 Holes 21
    Total Rounds Front Nine 22
    Total Rounds Back Nine 21
    Avg Score 18 Holes 96.1
    Avg Score Front Nine 48.1
    Avg Score Back Nine 47.5
    Fairways 84/286 (29&#37
    Fairways Front Nine 42/145 (29%)
    Fairways Back Nine 42/141 (30%)
    Greens 64/351 (18%)
    Greens Front Nine 35/180 (19%)
    Greens Back Nine 29/171 (17%)
    Avg Putts 18 Holes 36.24
    Avg Putts 2.01
    Avg Putts Front Nine 2.04
    Avg Putts Back Nine 1.97
    Avg Putts Per Green in Regulation 2.22
    Avg Putts Per Green Non-Reg 1.96
    Zero Putts 4 (1%)
    One Putts 64 (17%)
    Two Putts 247 (64%)
    Three or More Putts 72 (19%)
    Sand Saves 7/41 (17%)
    Non-Sand Saves 20/281 (7%)
    Total Saves 27/322 (8%)
    Hole in Ones 0 (0%)
    Double Eagles 0 (0%)
    Eagles 0 (0%)
    Birdies 4 (1%)
    Pars 72 (19%)
    Bogeys 158 (41%)
    Double Bogeys 103 (27%)
    Triple Bogeys 35 (9%)
    Others 15 (4%)
    Par 3 Avg Score 4.18
    Par 4 Avg Score 5.46
    Par 5 Avg Score 6.36
    Par 3 Green in Regulation 16/87 (18%)
    Par 4 Green in Regulation 30/197 (15%)
    Par 5 Green in Regulation18/67 (27%)

    One of the rounds was a 9 hole effort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markTHEblake View Post
    For example here are mine for 2007

    FW - 4
    GIR - 4
    Putts - 3
    Putts GIR - 2.5
    Saves - 23
    Sand - 30+

    obviously i need to work on my Bunker Play and my low Par Saves indicate that when I miss a shot, i get into a lot of trouble
    Yeah, I only kept the first 3 stats, but presumably my hcap on the other 3 would be shocking, as I'm playing to about a 10 hcap.
    FW - +1
    GIR - 8
    Putts - 2

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    Just checked my stats
    FW 64%
    GIR 16%
    Putts 1.91
    Bunker play 24%
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    Quote Originally Posted by jarro View Post
    How is it that a 21/22 capper makes more SS than a 19/20 capper ??
    my 1st post explains briefly

    Those two numbers is the only area in the data that doesnt follow a consistent trendline. I assume that the number of golfers/rounds in the pool was low for that handicap range, and it really is a stat that can fluctuate wildly.

    I suggest golfers in that handicap range use their brains a wee bit and work out what it should be based on the above and below - its not too hard

    I'll put some graphs up later, just have to copy-proof them !
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    7 hanidcapper.

    I don't match the chart.

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    FW 44.83%
    GIR 59.61%
    U&D 30.77%
    SS 32.65%
    Putts Per 18 Holes 37.16
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    Have added graphs to the first post, and changed the data slightly for the irregular data for sandsaves (21/22 hcap)
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